Playing Sega Saturn on LED 40"

[Anthony817]

Are you sure? You have to make it stretch it in the tv settings to do that. The guy didn't go over it. When you play in normal aspect, it should be 4.3. When you do zoom or wide it would stretch it. Plus he was playing a PS1 game on the PS2. I think that guy just preferred stretched cause he said you could adjust it on your TV to your preference.



He says you have to mess with your tv settings to get the video signal to fill the screen right there at the 3 min mark so to me that sounds like he preferred to stretch it and he had to go through and make it stretch.

[deadlyg33k]

Are you sure? You have to make it stretch it in the tv settings to do that. The guy didn't go over it. When you play in normal aspect, it should be 4.3. When you do zoom or wide it would stretch it. Plus he was playing a PS1 game on the PS2. I think that guy just preferred stretched cause he said you could adjust it on your TV to your preference.



He says you have to mess with your tv settings to get the video signal to fill the screen right there at the 3 min mark so to me that sounds like he preferred to stretch it and he had to go through and make it stretch.

Ah copy that! I misunderstood what he said.

[theclaw]

Basically as it stands (and according to the video) if I utilize the hardware he suggests it'll look nice but the image will be stretched. Since my LED HDTV doesn't have the capability to force 4:3 I'm forced to simply take whatever the Saturn outputs (I thought it was S-Video) and vai an adapter be able to hook it up to one of the 3 HDMI inputs or even the YRGB, whichever would yield me the best results.

I don't know enough about this stuff to be sure whatever conversion cable I get would be decent quality.

Saturn has 3 outputs. composite, s-video, and RGB. (no internal RF modulator)

While better potential quality, RGB is more for experienced users than s-video. Most often in the console realm sent over scart, with "composite video" as sync. (other methods include clean sync*, the different Japanese plug, and BNC plugs like PVM monitors have.)

*sync without a composite video signal. variously referred to as c-sync, raw sync, composite sync...

[deadlyg33k]

Basically as it stands (and according to the video) if I utilize the hardware he suggests it'll look nice but the image will be stretched. Since my LED HDTV doesn't have the capability to force 4:3 I'm forced to simply take whatever the Saturn outputs (I thought it was S-Video) and vai an adapter be able to hook it up to one of the 3 HDMI inputs or even the YRGB, whichever would yield me the best results.

I don't know enough about this stuff to be sure whatever conversion cable I get would be decent quality.

Saturn has 3 outputs. composite, s-video, and RGB. (no internal RF modulator)

While better potential quality, RGB is more for experienced users than s-video. Most often in the console realm sent over scart, with "composite video" as sync. (other methods include clean sync*, the different Japanese plug, and BNC plugs like PVM monitors have.)

*sync without a composite video signal. variously referred to as c-sync, raw sync, composite sync...

Okay so here's another question for you guys; I also have a Samsung Smart LED 55" that does have the forced 4:3 option but I used it with Mame the other day and there was noticeable input lag, however today (actually just now lol), I discovered a setting called "Game Mode ON/OFF, I read somewhere that turning it on drastically reduces IL is this true?

[Anthony817]

Game mode is supposed to be good on most TV's for gaming but on my best friends NEW 65 inch 4k LED Samsung the game mode drastically looks worse on his TV for some reason. The TV guy told him to never use that setting on that particular TV as we he got it for PS4 and PC gaming and it just didn't look right, kind of off. This was after trying everything we could think of.

Most TV's game mode is best, but a few it makes them look worse even if you tune the settings. I don't know what the deal is with that TV but it made all the colors look really blue and the image was blurry in game mode.

Anyway, you using Mame tells me one thing. You are most likely using a PC to play the games and you have to mess with lots of settings to get every game to work just right with emulators. You might experience lag that you could be attributing to input lag but it could be a number of things. Could be the particular game needs the settings tweaked to optimally run.

There are also settings in mame to stretch the image, so that could be a problem too. Most older games you actually have to go out of your way to stretch them to fill any modern widescreen. I have to do this when I play Dreamcast games on PC. I am the opposite of you, I can;t stand black bars and want my images stretched to fill up empty space on my screen.

[Jagosaurus]

So are you getting a saturn or Dreamcast? Thread title & post mention different consoles.

Important because the DC will output VGA, SS will not.

[Exhuminator]

"Game Mode ON/OFF, I read somewhere that turning it on drastically reduces IL is this true?

It disables your HDTV's post processing, so yeah, it's true. It can also make your image look like crap though. Have a read through this:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=777857