What Gamecube games am I missing out on ?

[lisalover1]

Wind Waker practically looks identical to the new HD version in 480P mode.

While it undoubtedly looks very good, I don't know about that.

Alright, I exaggerated a bit, but you have to admit, it looks REALLY good in 480p!

[CRTGAMER]

Actually if you've ever played Twilight Princess on the Wii and want to run through it again, try playing it on the Gamecube and vice-versa. It's trippy.

The reason is that Link has been a left-handed sword wielder since the dawn of time, but they switched it to the right hand by virtue of how most people would hold the Wiimote. With that, they mirrored the entire game (East is West, etc.) from the Gamecube version.

I plowed through the Wii version and shortly after, my brother asked me to help him with a dungeon on the Gamecube. I almost went into a coma.

I am one of the few who uses the Wiimote in my left hand. My seating position is a little to the right from the front of the TV, figured the infra would be more accurate reading the light bar. Turned out the Wiimote works fine either way, but got used to the "lefty" approach in all the Wii games. That said I do like both versions of Zelda Twilight. The Gamecube for traditional controls, the Wii version for the instant aim on the screen.

GBA Auxiliary Screen Games
I didn't see this mentioned other the Pacman Vs and Zelda Four swords. Taken further all the games that use the GBA for statistics, maps and even downloads of mini games. A few games also utilize both the GBA and GC versions such as Metroid to unlock new features. Even some of the games that are cross platform have that GBA map screen advantage in the Gamecube.

[Ziggy]

Oh and yes to Eternal Darkness too. I had that in high school, but like most people, I traded it in for cash at Gamestop (along with Gauntlet Dark Legacy, which while awesome on the 'Cube, is also on other platforms). I wish I never got rid of it because it was (and still is) different than most video games I had played at that time.

Soul Calibur II, while multiplatform, has an extra character exclusive to each console version. Gamecube version has Link. I too am also thinking about getting Wave Race Blue Storm, mostly because it's cheap.

I'll also echo the sentiment of a few others for Super Smash Bros Melee.

Eternal Darkness is definitely on my list of games I wanna try. I didn't know that about Soul Calibur II, so thanks for that info. And thanks for the Info on Smash Bros Melee. I always figured not to bother with them since I rarely have some one to play with. But since every one is telling me they're still fun by yourself, I'd like to pick that one up.

Don't mean to drag the thread down, but I have been thinking a lot lately myself... I might have to say the GC is probably the weakest Nintendo console for me.

LOL, don't feel bad. It's by far the weakest Nintendo console for me. I have over 100 SNES games, maybe 50 or so that I absolutely love. I have a couple dozen NES games, some of which I consider to be some of the best games ever. I have a little over 20 Wii games and almost all of them I either really like or love, with still a bunch of Wii games I want to get. The Gamecube... I got the console before Mario Sunshine came out, but I just never got into it. So don't feel bad. That's why I made this thread. The GCN exclusives isn't a long list.

Oh, and it does work with a gamecube controller, you don't need a GBA for single player.

I actually own a GBA with the GCN cable. I love using the original GBA as a controller when using the GB Player.

All the stuff about N64 Zelda games.

I own OoT and MM on the N64. Truth be told, I'm not a huge fan of 3D Zelda games. I liked OoT alright, but I'm not die hard about it like most people. I also didn't play it back in the day, so maybe that has something to do with it? Also, I made sure to get a (N64) version of the game with red blood, chanting, torture room, etc. I wouldn't care to play the GCN version because of that jazz.

^I guess it would be pretty trippy. Doubt it's worth the expense though, as the Gamecube version is a bit on the pricey side these days.

I own Twilight on Wii, but I haven't play it yet. My brother bought it for me for my birthday when it came out, but I was planning on getting the GCN version. I don't like motion controls most of the time. But I looked into the GCN version, I read that the GCN version isn't in widescreen, so I said to hell with that. I'll play the Wii version, which I already own, when I finally get around to it.

I guess I just have one suggestion: Try and find the component cable. If not for the Cube, then for your Wii. Trust me, it makes a HUGE difference. Wind Waker practically looks identical to the new HD version in 480P mode.

I have a split setup. My actual Gamecube is in the man cave with my Trinitron Wega (CRT). I use S-Video for it, and I'm fine with that. Especially with the price of the component GCN cables. Eff that. My Wii is on my HDTV, and I've been using component cables with it pretty much since I got the Wii.

Wind Waker practically looks identical to the new HD version in 480P mode.

While it undoubtedly looks very good, I don't know about that.

Alright, I exaggerated a bit, but you have to admit, it looks REALLY good in 480p!

I own Wind Waker, but I've never played much of it. The most I've played was maybe 30 minutes outside the first dungeon. I just could never get into it. But now that the HD version is coming out, I'm torn. I think I should just wait and play the HD version and forget about the GCN version.

[pierrot]

Don't mean to drag the thread down, but I have been thinking a lot lately myself... I might have to say the GC is probably the weakest Nintendo console for me.

LOL, don't feel bad. It's by far the weakest Nintendo console for me. I have over 100 SNES games, maybe 50 or so that I absolutely love. I have a couple dozen NES games, some of which I consider to be some of the best games ever. I have a little over 20 Wii games and almost all of them I either really like or love, with still a bunch of Wii games I want to get. The Gamecube... I got the console before Mario Sunshine came out, but I just never got into it. So don't feel bad. That's why I made this thread. The GCN exclusives isn't a long list

Y'know, at the very least, I think the Gamecube is substantially better than the N64 in terms of library. The parity in multi-platform games of the time might lead the Gamecube to stand out less, but I do feel it's one of the best periods for Nintendo hardware and software. If it weren't for BC on the Wii, I'd say the GC easily has a leg up on it as well. (I know there are a bunch of great games on the Wii that are buried in the library, but I still find it to be pretty weak in terms of catalog and function.)

[Ziggy]

Y'know, at the very least, I think the Gamecube is substantially better than the N64 in terms of library.

Really? I mean, we can always agree to disagree, but I think the N64 library blows away the GCN library. And that's putting it lightly. The N64 had some of the best of the best. Mario Sunshine, Star Fox Assault, and Wind Waker are generally considered to be let downs compared to Mario 64, Star Fox 64, and Ocarina of Time. The N64 had a huge number of high quality exclusives, too many to list. They had Rare. With the exception of maybe two, every one of Rare's games on the 64 was completely golden. Goldeneye. That was a show stopper.

To be fair tho, I'm just comparing exclusives. Putting multi console games back into the mix, the GCN library isn't bad at all. Not the greatest, but not horrible.

If it weren't for BC on the Wii, I'd say the GC easily has a leg up on it as well. (I know there are a bunch of great games on the Wii that are buried in the library, but I still find it to be pretty weak in terms of catalog and function.)

Really? Again, we can agree to disagree. But I really feel like Nintendo did a 180 with the Wii in terms of fantastic first party games (compared to the GCN). Maybe in terms of multi consoles games the Wii missed out on a lot of things due to its limitations, where as the GCN got a lot of multi platform games, but they more than made up for it with the amount of amazing exclusives. I'll be eagerly going through the Wii library for years to come, where as I have to make this thread to find Gamecube games.

[Jagosaurus]

REmake, straight up. Easily the best game in the Resident Evil series. If you're even remotely into survival horror it's worth picking up. If you've beaten the original several times, it's DEFINITELY worth picking up, as it's far more than just a prettier version of the same game.

RE Code Veronica X is amazing on GCN. It's my favorite RE game.

One of the enhanced Dreamcast ports you referenced. I think it looks substantially better & runs smoother than PS2 port. Also, more story (Wesker) added to GNC & PS2 ports.

[pierrot]

Y'know, at the very least, I think the Gamecube is substantially better than the N64 in terms of library.

Really? I mean, we can always agree to disagree, but I think the N64 library blows away the GCN library. And that's putting it lightly. The N64 had some of the best of the best. Mario Sunshine, Star Fox Assault, and Wind Waker are generally considered to be let downs compared to Mario 64, Star Fox 64, and Ocarina of Time. The N64 had a huge number of high quality exclusives, too many to list. They had Rare. With the exception of maybe two, every one of Rare's games on the 64 was completely golden. Goldeneye. That was a show stopper.

To be fair tho, I'm just comparing exclusives. Putting multi console games back into the mix, the GCN library isn't bad at all. Not the greatest, but not horrible.

If it weren't for BC on the Wii, I'd say the GC easily has a leg up on it as well. (I know there are a bunch of great games on the Wii that are buried in the library, but I still find it to be pretty weak in terms of catalog and function.)

Really? Again, we can agree to disagree. But I really feel like Nintendo did a 180 with the Wii in terms of fantastic first party games (compared to the GCN). Maybe in terms of multi consoles games the Wii missed out on a lot of things due to its limitations, where as the GCN got a lot of multi platform games, but they more than made up for it with the amount of amazing exclusives. I'll be eagerly going through the Wii library for years to come, where as I have to make this thread to find Gamecube games.

This is generally where I feel we'll continually end up disagreeing, but I'm not a fan of Nintendo doing their same old song and dance, which is the feeling I get from most first party titles on the SNES, N64 and Wii. For once, throughout the generation, they actually seemed to care about making advancements in gameplay, even if they were still using the same tired characters: Donkey Kong Jungle Beat, Luigi's Mansion, Metroid Prime, Wario Ware, Kirby Air Ride, etc. (And, no, I don't feel jumping their franchises from 2D to 3D was ever very thrilling.) Even if I don't love everything they published on the Gamecube, I respect the efforts they made to liven up (what I consider to be) stale IPs. Although in most cases, this meant passing them off to other developers.

I just always have this mental image of a decomposing Mario being dragged through briar patches, mud, and forests of dead trees by a giant, floating Nintendo logo. There use of the franchises just doesn't suit me, but for some reason people want more, so obviously Nintendo is going to take the money people throw at them. At the same time, I don't think that Sonic ever really needed to come out of the 16-bit era, either. I like Adventure, daytime Unleashed, Colors and Generations well enough, but they're largely unnecessary. I don't know where it originally came from, but someone, somewhere, posited that Sega was attempting to create a mascot for each new console in Alex Kidd, Sonic, and Nights. That, to me, would be the sign of a company that cares about pushing a medium, and to their credit, I think Nintendo was approaching that kind of ingenuity in the Gamecube. (I'm also including what was done with the GBA library in that thought, too, I suppose.) The Wii feels like a massive step backward to me, in that regard. In the interest of full disclosure, I HATE 99% of the motion control implementation in Wii games, though. (Same with touch-screen bull crap. "3D"? GTFO!)

In terms of first-party games, I think the Gamecube stomps on the Wii. The really amazing thing about the Wii library, to me, is how many excellent third-party exclusives there are that were just buried with the shovelware. I've taken note of most of what I believe to be worth owning for the Wii, and I still don't think it really stacks up to the Gamecube. I'm just going by what I personally own/want for the systems, and what I think the hardware offers, and for me they go (from best to worst): Gamecube-Wii-N64.

[Violent By Design]

Single player games

Ikaruga - It's a very famous shoot em up, so if you're a fan of the genre it's probably a must have (though you would likely know this already if you were into shoot em ups). If you've just dabbled in the genre, I'd approach with caution since the game is rather difficult and it may intimidate someone who isn't familiar with how unforgiving the genre can be. Still it's a really cool game with nice depth and aesthetics.

Resident Evil - The remake for Gamecube is the best Resident Evil game. Even if you have played the original, you can still play this one because they actually changed the map of the game (as well as making it larger if I can recall). It's essentially its own game, making it a unique experience. I know you said you're not a fan of survival horror, but really all the Resident Evil games are not really scary, and in the case of the "tank control" ones they don't really follow traditional third party tropes that you may dislike.

Resident Evil 0 - Same praise as Resident Evil 1 more or less. In this game you control two people, and it is a prequel so you wouldn't be missing out on anything if you played it first (you can play any of the Resident Evils in any order really, most are not really connected and the overall plot is silly and not worth taking seriously).

Resident Evil 4 - This is a better port than the PS2 version, but I found the Wii one to be a bit more fun to aim with. Either way, can't go wrong with this one. Though this is more action based, so I am not sure if this one is up your ally.

Eternal Darkness - I'm actually in the middle of playing this again with a group of some other friends. I'm usually watching, but the game is definitely really cool. The fighting is just as clunky as it was when it came out, but it has great atmosphere, lore and presentation. It's written pretty well from where me and my friends left off. I would def check it out, not sure how expensive it is now though.



Multiplayer games -

The Legend of Zelda: Four Swords Adventures - The goodness of 2D Zelda but with 3 other players, what could be bad about this? I never played it myself, but everyone tells me its good, see no reason why it shouldn't be.

Pac Man Vs - I LOVE Pacman. This is a party game where the person playing Pacman is using the GBA as the controller, and the other 3 players are controlling ghost via split screen on the TV. Of course you need an actual GBA and link, as well as 3 other people because it is strictly a multiplayer game if I can recall.

Super Smash Brothers Melee - A complete upgrade over 64, and it is better than Brawl (as well as having slightly different mechanics). The graphics are still great and the movement in the game is very smooth and fast. I really loved this game because of the multiplayer, but the single player is still worth a buy if you've never played it before.





Some other comments on the things that have been said

I kind of agree with the person who said Windwaker doesn't look that much different in HD. Windwaker for Gamecube looks so pretty still, I doubt it would make much of a difference if you played the new version. I don't care for Zelda personally, so I can't vouch if another person who isn't a fan of 3D Zelda would like it.


The Zelda collection is skip-able, you can find all of those games easily for pretty cheap, probably less than it would cost to actually buy the collection CD. I also have heard that Majoras Mask has some serious bugs in the GC version, though I've never played the n64 one myself to compare.

I'd rather get Twilight Princess for Gamecube, I mean the game was designed for the platform originally and the controls prob hold up better (Wii controls for Twilight are really archaic considering the game isn't very old). But if you already have Twilight Princess for the Wii, there isn't much justification to buying the GC one which is 30 something dollars probably.




As for my input on the n64 vs GameCube comparison, I would easily take the Gamecube. I don't think it's even really close tbh. I mean if you're just comparing exclusives then I guess it's close, but at that point you're not really talking about who has a superior library. Gamecube had a ton of quality multiplat games (a lot of them probably done better than PS2 counter parts) where n64 didn't have many, so the difference in game quality is pretty large.

[Gunstar Green]

I agree that if you're talking first party games and exclusive games, the N64 almost certainly wins as that's where its major strength was.

But the Gamecube is a lot more balanced overall than the N64 if you include everything.

Of course I was never a big fan of the N64 at all so my bias may be showing. I was a member of the PC gamer camp at the time who were never really blown away by Goldeneye.

[Omerta]

I'm really curious how all this stuff looks through the Wii U via HDMI and all, since I've gotten kind of picky about that sort of thing now I guess lol.

What is this "Wii U" thing you speak of?