Let's fight back against the NDAA

[AppleQueso]

You're probably right actually.

...hope that doesn't ruin the point I was trying to make. I'm kinda bad at these poly-ticks discussions.

[Hatta]

Of course they did. Democrats and Republicans are both authoritarian parties. The only real difference between the two is which group of corporations they supplicate themselves to the most. If you ever expect things to change for the better, if you care about freedom, the most important thing is to break the two party (one party really) hegemony. Vote third party this year, it's our only chance.

[MrPopo]

Of course they did. Democrats and Republicans are both authoritarian parties. The only real difference between the two is which group of corporations they supplicate themselves to the most. If you ever expect things to change for the better, if you care about freedom, the most important thing is to break the two party (one party really) hegemony. Vote third party this year, it's our only chance.

The problem you have is only about ~20% of voters actually make a decision after the candidates are set. Third parties are doomed from the get go.

[brunoafh]

Third parties are doomed from the get go.

This is why I don't vote.

[o.pwuaioc]

Third parties still have an impact, even if we'll never get someone in office. Vote local, folks. Vote local. The presidential race isn't the only race we have. We need grassroots effort to break up the mega-parties, but it won't start at the White House, it'll start in your state Senate or House. It starts with mayors and governors. That's where it starts.

[mjmjr25]

For sake of fairness, do you have a link for those of us who would like to support the new law?

Is this supposed to be a joke.

or are you pretending to be crazy? I don't get it. >_>

No.

So, folks who disagree w/you are crazy? Once again - zuzu's opinion is fact. I see.

[Inazuma]

For sake of fairness, do you have a link for those of us who would like to support the new law?

Is this supposed to be a joke.

or are you pretending to be crazy? I don't get it. >_>

No.

So, folks who disagree w/you are crazy? Once again - zuzu's opinion is fact. I see.

People who think it's perfectly OK for the military to be able to jail any American citizen that they want, without a trial are very crazy to me. I think you are just choosing to disagree on purpose. If you seriously are in favor of this law, go ahead and tell us.

[MrPopo]

Third parties still have an impact, even if we'll never get someone in office. Vote local, folks. Vote local. The presidential race isn't the only race we have. We need grassroots effort to break up the mega-parties, but it won't start at the White House, it'll start in your state Senate or House. It starts with mayors and governors. That's where it starts.

I'll agree with this. The national election is going to be on a two party system for as long as any of us will be alive. If Teddy Roosevelt couldn't get elected as a third party then no one can. But local elections are another story. There people actually pay attention to the candidate, rather than the party affiliation.

People who think it's perfectly OK for the military to be able to jail any American citizen that they want, without a trial are very crazy to me.

Bolded for emphasis. I'm not commenting on either your stance or mjmjr25's, but Inazuma, you have to stop thinking that your perception is the only correct one. Because if you think that then you're exactly the same as a religious fundamentalist.

[AmishSamurai]

Bolded for emphasis. I'm not commenting on either your stance or mjmjr25's, but Inazuma, you have to stop thinking that your perception is the only correct one. Because if you think that then you're exactly the same as a religious fundamentalist.

This. This is why nobody likes you Inazuma.

[dsheinem]

I'm not commenting on either your stance or mjmjr25's, but Inazuma, you have to stop thinking that your perception is the only correct one. Because if you think that then you're exactly the same as a religious fundamentalist.

I thought we decided long ago that the irony of his dogmatism is completely lost on him.