Help Me Pick a Gameroom TV - Low Latency, 4K, Budget

[Ziggy]

Awesome, congrats! And I can't wait for your review on it!

[Jagosaurus]

I plan on posting more in time, but I am loving this TV. Games look amazing.

To anyone interested, looks like TCL is about to release their new models:

https://www.cnet.com/news/tcl-6-series- ... ffordable/

The 50 inch now has multiple dimming zones, but no native 120Hz (vs 120 Clear Motion Index software/marketing gimmick) . Not worth the near 50% price increase of my model IMO. You have to jump to the 55" at $650 for true native 120Hz at 4K.

Really interesting for any1 jumping into PS5 & XSX:

the new 2020 version, on sale Tuesday, could perform better than ever. It adds mini-LED technology for potentially better picture quality as well gaming-friendly extras including 120Hz, variable refresh rate and THX game mode.

[racketboy]

I'm going to be in kinda the same market -- at the same time curious if something like a Sony one would be a good choice.
Any brands to avoid?

[stickem]

I plan on posting more in time, but I am loving this TV. Games look amazing.

To anyone interested, looks like TCL is about to release their new models:

https://www.cnet.com/news/tcl-6-series- ... ffordable/

The 50 inch now has multiple dimming zones, but no native 120Hz (vs 120 Clear Motion Index software/marketing gimmick) . Not worth the near 50% price increase of my model IMO. You have to jump to the 55" at $650 for true native 120Hz at 4K.

Really interesting for any1 jumping into PS5 & XSX:

the new 2020 version, on sale Tuesday, could perform better than ever. It adds mini-LED technology for potentially better picture quality as well gaming-friendly extras including 120Hz, variable refresh rate and THX game mode.

TCL seems like the new vizio from years ago. What systems do you run on it, any upscalers? Does it do 240p through component, since you seem like a ps1/ps2 guy.

[Jagosaurus]

I'm going to be in kinda the same market -- at the same time curious if something like a Sony one would be a good choice.
Any brands to avoid?

I was in for a budget 4K set so I was cool with 60Hz. Sony was one of the really early native 120Hz manufacturers. They're typically considered a premium set and good for gaming. Surprisingly, CNET has bee doing gaming lag testing on all their reviews. I'd reference that by specific model #. Not only for modern games, but because a some retro scalers (Framemeister) add even more lag.

[Jagosaurus]

@stickem, my 2 Vizios (2018 models) in other roo.s both have component & I use a comp to VGA converter for my VGA CRT monitor. It's getting harder to find new 4K sets with component.

[stickem]

Even if they have component, it's a toss up if they except the 240p signal out of ps1/some ps2 games. Luckily I found BC ps3 for that, but was like wtf trying to figure out why with my ps2 and component.

[Ziggy]

Even with a 4K TV that can accept 240p over component, how does that even look? Some scalers misinterpret a 240p signal as 480i.

[fuctfuct]

Don't the 4 series TCLs have fake 120hz (120hz CMI) that you cannot turn off? It's mentioned in many video reviews. I'm kinda looking for the same thing but that and the TCLs bad "dirty screen" effect across all models turned me off. DSE is horrible for gaming, more so with retro, and sports. I'm just gonna wait for the CX OLED 46 inch to drop in price i guess.

https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/best/ ... deo-gaming

[Ziggy]

I don't own a TCL myself, but like I said, I purchased one for my parents. I'm pretty sure it has the "fake" 120hz, but it never bothered me. I didn't game extensively on it, but I did try my Switch and SNES Classic on it and they both played and looked great. Just about the only thing I don't like about the TV is that glare is a real problem. You need a dark room, any light source really messes the screen up. If it's day time, drawing the shades is enough. But if you have any kind of lamp on that will reflect on the screen it'll be bad. Ceiling lights are OK. My parent's house is an open floor plan, so there's only a staircase between the dining room and living room. They have a chandelier in the dining room, and directly across from that on the other side of the house is the TV. If the chandelier is on, it reflects so badly on the screen that it's unwatchable. The lamp that's in the living room doesn't even look as bad when it's on (but it's still bad).