Nintendo: Project Cafe - Wii U

[MrPopo]

And the thing is, that if Nintendo doesn't bother to support DVD and Blue Ray, you know that they are so stingy that they'll also not have proper online support, a proper browser, and of course a proper shop.... Nintendo would really thrive as a 3rd party developer, with the right to make their own peripherals. But I think they are very out of touch with the reality of the modern tech world right now. People love having all in one devices, and people love the internet. Both of those are things Nintendo rejects....

Except that DVD playback is NOT a system seller in this day and age. Same with a proper web browser. Does anyone honestly do web browsing from their console in anything more than a novelty fashion? Really, the two things that Nintendo didn't do so well on this generation was online support and the shop. I am confident they won't make the same mistake with the Wii U. They might not make it exactly the way you want, but it'll be perfectly functional and will let you do everything you need to if you want to play with friends online and easily find a good new game. Good online gaming functionality IS a system seller. The other stuff you mentioned isn't.

I wish the best for them, cause I love their games, but honestly, I don't get why the 3DS does LESS than an iphone. I don't care for the phone part of course, but why can't it have a proper app store, awesome internet browser, awesome mp3 player, movie player, and ect. ect.

Again, why should it have all of these things? It's a portable video game system. The important things it needs to have are to be able to play video games and to have online functionality to let people play videogames with other people. In fact, your iPhone argument is one of the key reasons it DOESN'T have all that stuff. People already have their smart phones for things like an internet browser and an MP3 player. Or they just have a regular MP3 player that does movies. An internet browser on a portable device without 3G isn't worth much, so any non-phone device is out for that. All that's left is the app store, and there's a reason Nintendo doesn't have one of those. It's the same reason the PSN only has releases from actual game studios and not the asshole three houses down from you.

[Jamisonia]

I think this argument proves what I was saying. There is no storage technology that is good enough for high standards. At least not one that will keep the WiiU in an acceptable price range. So Nintendo opts to go with lower capacity instead. Thats fine if they keep the DLC to a minimum. But I would think with little DLC comes either subscription online, or bare bones online.

[MrPopo]

I think this argument proves what I was saying. There is no storage technology that is good enough for high standards. At least not one that will keep the WiiU in an acceptable price range. So Nintendo opts to go with lower capacity instead. Thats fine if they keep the DLC to a minimum. But I would think with little DLC comes either subscription online, or bare bones online.

The PSN is a better online than the Wii's online and doesn't cost anything.

[AppleQueso]

I can dream.

Fair enough.

Dreams aren't very logical though

If the games I am interested in (mostly Nintendo 1st party games) end up having DLC with various restrictions and bullshit, I probably won't be able to buy it. As for shitty games like CoD and whatnot, I don't give a fuck about how much bullshit they have. I have no interest in them either way.

You know you don't have to buy DLC right?

[emwearz]

Sure, and people dont have to play Duke Nukem Forever, LIES!

[jfrost]

I don't get why the 3DS does LESS than an iphone.

Because the iPhone costs 650 dollars?

[elmagicochrisg]

Sure, and people dont have to play Duke Nukem Forever, LIES!

Seriously though, I think DLC is the crappiest thing that ever happened to videogames ever. Just another way to ask more money for things that should've been originally in the game from the start. Most of the time at least...

In all honesty, that's one of the main reasons I virtually play no more current gen games. I like my games to be both physical and complete, from the start...

[ZeroAX]

Except that DVD playback is NOT a system seller in this day and age. Same with a proper web browser. Does anyone honestly do web browsing from their console in anything more than a novelty fashion? Really, the two things that Nintendo didn't do so well on this generation was online support and the shop. I am confident they won't make the same mistake with the Wii U. They might not make it exactly the way you want, but it'll be perfectly functional and will let you do everything you need to if you want to play with friends online and easily find a good new game. Good online gaming functionality IS a system seller. The other stuff you mentioned isn't.

It's not a system seller. Just like a car having a radio isn't a car seller. But you still expect it to be included. Ok, you pay a lot more money for a car. But I pay a lot more money than you guys for a console as well. 250€ (the price for a 3DS) is 357$. Why shouldn't I get freaking DVD playback with my 357$? The hardware is there, why shouldn't the software be there as well?

And really, with the Wii U's new controller, don't you think a lot of people would like to use it to browse the internet from their cough? I want to buy a mac mini, so I can have a small device connected to my TV, to browse the internet and watch movies. Why shouldn't my console be able to do that? It's not that I'm demanding better hardware, that can jack up the price of the console a lot. I'm demanding better software. If you divide the cost of developing the software, by the million of units they'll make, it really doesn't cost them a lot.

Again, why should it have all of these things? It's a portable video game system. The important things it needs to have are to be able to play video games and to have online functionality to let people play videogames with other people. In fact, your iPhone argument is one of the key reasons it DOESN'T have all that stuff. People already have their smart phones for things like an internet browser and an MP3 player. Or they just have a regular MP3 player that does movies. An internet browser on a portable device without 3G isn't worth much, so any non-phone device is out for that. All that's left is the app store, and there's a reason Nintendo doesn't have one of those. It's the same reason the PSN only has releases from actual game studios and not the asshole three houses down from you.

Again, I'm asking for better software for my device. I'm asking for more options. Just cause I'm not going to use it, doesn't mean the software being there isn't nice.

Ok, you guys don't care about that stuff. Good for you. But I care. I don't see why I can't ask for more stuff for my money. Why should I take Nintendo's corporate line for granted? That people only care for a game's machine. And before the iphone, people only cared for a phone. Before video games, people only cared for computers to do accounting. These machines can do soooooo many things. Why should what we do with our machines be limited?

If Nintendo doesn't want to pay for the software, for Blue-ray/DVD playback, or for a proper browser, they should just allow a 3rd party to release the necessary software for it in their app store.

And BTW an app store is an escellent idea. The problem is that Apple's quality control is crap, and the lowest price range is too low. I still think the PS minis line is a good idea, but unfortunately when 80% of the game line is iphone and flash ports, at 3 times the price, people skip the entire content, and that makes even the gems among them suffer

[AmishSamurai]

If the Wii U is backwards-compatible with Wii games, then it has some level of DVD support. It's a matter of enabling it.

Also, since the Wii U tablet will probably end up being connected to the system via bluetooth, I want to see how people will make it interact with computers.

[flamepanther]

Why shouldn't I get freaking DVD playback with my 357$? The hardware is there, why shouldn't the software be there as well?

Because then it would cost $387. The DVD Consortium (now known as the "DVD Forum") that controls the patents and software licensing on DVD playback and encryption don't offer the use of those things for free. Since Nintendo isn't into selling the hardware at a loss, they would have to raise the cost of the system. It's actually really simple, but if you want to blame someone, blame the DVD Forum.

Personally, I'd rather not pay any extra cash for DVD playback just because some dumbass doesn't have a DVD player in this day and age.