Minimalism and Retro Gaming

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Re: Minimalism and Retro Gaming

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Blu wrote: Here are some variables that I hope spur some more debate. I'm curious on people's thoughts:

1. Do you have a lot of games you purchased or own to try out the multiplayer if and when friends come over? I've found that I occasionally do this, and we usually end up playing something else. So I'm thinking I can be more deliberate and thin out some of these titles.

2. Do you limit yourself to collecting for one main console? Or does your love for gaming and/or collecting know no bounds? My Dreamcast collection accounts for a third of my entire library. If I collected for anything, it's Dreamcast and the jewel cases are all pretty well form-factored, so I'm not upset about having to lug them, other than they fit into a single box and are heavy.

3. I like a minimal aesthetic, but I can also appreciate the appeal of having a library of games to go and play. Do you use shelves that display the titles? or do you enjoy the aesthetic of shelving units that have mounted doors to keep things hidden?

4. The emulation sweet spot between emulating purely and keeping original software seems to be with Fast's blissbox 4 play. Keep the original controllers if you want the tactile appeal of the original inputs, though you're not running it natively from the original machine. I know the copyright issue can be dodgy for folks if they still want to be in compliance with the law and/or still like having original cart or disc. (I know this one is debated to death here already). BUT, do people think it's sometimes a crutch we lean on to justify owning the original, pure software?
1. Nope.

2. To the extent I collect at all, I have narrowed my focus to Atari. I have a 2600, a 7800, and a 800XL home computer. I like to collect Atari because I like the aesthetics of the hardware and the games themselves (blocky as they are - they are pure gameplay). Plus it's pretty cheap outside of a very, very few rare carts that aren't terribly good games anyway. Occasionally, I will buy a Genesis cart; I have most of the games I actually want to play but there are a few more I would like to add (even so, I only have 15-20 games for it).

3. I actually use small rubbermaid containers for my games. It helps keep the contacts clean-ish and they are cheap and stackable. I keep the Atari games I like to play the most all in one container so I know where they are.

4. I have no qualms about emulation/ROMs - and I'm a lawyer out here in the real world. Sure, it's technically illegal to download ROMs (emulators are perfectly legal though). It's also technically illegal to drive 5 mph over the speed limit.

Copyright law is largely intended to protect companies from other companies and commercial interests, to keep another company from profiting off of the work of your company - its effect on the consumer is largely incidental. The companies are simply not concerned with the fact that people download ROMs from time to time. And law enforcement basically doesn't give a shit at all. Even if they did, proving who DID have the rights to a given game might be a REALLY difficult undertaking in many cases.

I am not advocating that anyone break the law (I am professionally obligated to say that, but I do mean it) - everyone must make their own decision on this issue. But my personal and professional opinion on the subject is that the fears/qualms/etc. of the end user when it comes to ROMs are frequently overblown.

Edit - Websites that distribute ROMs get taken down from time to time. There are two primary reasons for that. One, because those sites are making money from the presence of the ROMs through advertising that is usually all over those sites. Two, because under the law, rights holders need to be able to show that they have taken steps to enforce their claim on their IPs. Nintendo of America sending a nasty letter written by their attorney to a ROM site is an easy and basically free way of doing that.
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Re: Minimalism and Retro Gaming

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1. Nope. I don't buy to game multiplayer but some games just happen to have it.

2. Historically no, anything under a certain banner (Nintendo, Sega, Sony, NEC, SNK) would be fair game, or anything exotic. Realistically these days I'm keeping certain things but actively trying to limit it to a very narrow line of stuff but I won't ignore a good deal if I have the system. Mainly right now, classic side, it's Dreamcast and I'll get the Switch.

3. I have a nearly 6ft tall 5ft wide propac made 3 tier 21 platform media shelf. The games I do have left (non Gameboy stuff) are all lined up on there. It's for ease not display.

4. I have little issue with emulation, I own a Retron5 still. But at the same time I need that tactile bit so I hold onto some, a lot of others I do not, but I really do prefer to use an original/original 1:1 modeled controller.
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Re: Minimalism and Retro Gaming

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1. Generally not, since I would rather paly boardgames instead. That said, I do plan to keep 1-2 games for multiplayer once my setup is complete. No harm in owning ChuChu Rocket!

2. After a couple years of collecting "great games" I suddenly realized I had a lot of games I didn't really care about. You know, lots of great, difficult games, 40 hours RPGs and other stuff like that. Even worse, my tastes in games changed and a significant part of my collection wasn't fun to me anymore. I decided it had to stop and a rework as in order.

Now the games I collect are only the games I really, really like and care about. Games I can see myself replaying or checking their boxes, if I don't like a game enough to do that, chances are I didn't really want the game in the first place.

It helps that I want very few games per console, I don't think I want more than 8-9 Super Nintendo games and it's one of the best consoles around.

3. I like games being on display. I like to ocasionally look at them and I think it's more appealing to me aesthetically than flat doors and surfaces.
splay, sometimes I just pick the cases to have a look at them.

4. Since I already enjoy the collecting aspect of the hobby and would buy the games anyways, real hardware is actually easier for me to setup than good emulation. For example, setting up CRT filters and other hacks on MAME is a pain, while hooking up a NES is not.

I also enjoy the aspect of building a "gaming rig" and working on getting the best experience so that's also not a negative for me.
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Re: Minimalism and Retro Gaming

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I fall in the camp as one who has recently scaled down quite a bit.

I have an excel spreadsheet where I have kept exact figures, but these counts are within 5%.

As of this coming week (selling some items now on ebay), since May 2016 I will have gone from ~475 physical games to ~250 physical games.

I think it's important to note with those sales, I didn't lose the ability to play any of these titles. I actually gained access to move titles & systems.

It took planning and work to set up, but getting rid of a ton of physical items was nice, also didn't hurt knowing I can still playing these games or watch any of these movies.

To achieve this, I acquired and set up:

- 3 flash carts:
Genesis/SMS, NES, SNES

My feeling lazy set up
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- modded an oXbox (160GB HDD)
Allowing for easy plug and play emulation of all retro consoles (including handhelds!) in HD
& digital oXbox titles.

You can rip your oXbox library with ImgBurn. You have to use cxbox tool to then convert .iso to .xbe. Or just use DVD2XBOX app to rip via console disc tray.

My oXbox Emulators in 720p setup
you're seeing a portion of the emu list here.
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Upgrading internal HDD from 8GB to 160GB in process here
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- modded a PS2 (250GB HDD)
Allowing for digital PS2 games off HDD (via OPL)
& digital PS1 games off USB (via POPS).

You can rip your PS2/PS1 library with ImgBurn. OPL runs .isos. Or use HDLOADER to rip PS2 games from console disc tray.

My Open PS2 Loader setup
you're seeing a portion of 50+ games I have loaded up.
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Digital PS1 Games Running via POPStarter on PS2 via USB
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Scaling down my movie & CRT TV collection
I also ripped ~110 DVDs/BRs I sold off. I used MakeMKV (free software!) to rip & throw them on an external 2TB HDD, and I can just stream them. My downstairs BR player supports movies over USB & I purchased a $35 HDD media reader with HDMI out for my game room TV. End goal is to eventually set up a Plex server. This works for now.

I then offloaded 2 27" CRTs, 2 VCRs, & ~50 VHS tapes.

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Now that I have drastically paired down my physical game & movie media collection, I am in the trying to avoid the "digital clutter" scene :lol: one game or movie at a time! Yes, it's harder than it seems. The eXtra room is nice. I really like this route from a preservation standpoint as well.

My advice if you're looking into scaling down your collection would be to step back and see if you're okay with straight PC emulation or if you want real hardware. Real hardware & original controllers were important to me. Hence the projects shown above. I still have access to my oXbox emu or PC emu as a secondary option.
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