PlayStation Classic

[PartridgeSenpai]

That's more or less how I've come to look at it. Nintendo's own fairly bad efforts to have an easy, digital platform to buy their old games on made the SNES Mini have much higher value than it would've had otherwise. PSN has SO many of these games on it, or these games have had other re-releases very recently otherwise, that the 20 extra bucks that the PSC really has a tough time justifying why anyone should bother buying it when they can just buy the games in that collection they actually want on their current gen Sony console for 6 bucks a pop or so.

Eh, Nintendo offered many of those games on their various Virtual Consoles. The main thing they didn't do was have the account-based consistent storefront. That said, Sony did drop support for PS1 games from the PS4, so it's not necessarily a matter of just grabbing them for whatever console. Someone going back to their PS3 to play a PSOne Classic isn't much different from firing up their Wii U for the VC.

The lack of a cross-console account-based storefront is really what I was getting at. I mean you even had to pay a $2 fee per game to move VC games from your Wii account to your Wii U, and you couldn't even move them onto the Switch. I didn't realize PS4 didn't have PSOne Classics support on it though! Silly me assuming Sony would do something consistent and smart That would certainly not make this nearly as big of a waste of time as I'd thought before, but you can still get a Vita TV used for less than the price of this thing, so I still don't think it's a brilliant value proposition Xp

[Tanooki]

Also seeing the easy way to tie this back to who really started this proper like (Nintendo) where's the justification here value wise? They've diluted every one of the games on that list pretty much to nothing with all the releases and re-releases in digital format as it is and it has largely impacted the physical end of it. You look at the SNES CE from a year back and you have effectively about a $1000 in cartridges there for $80 that has 2 controllers in the box, and the full AC adapter with USB cable too. That value just is lacking from a monetary end, but also from substance. Look at the same developers between both the boxes and you have to ask why Konami, Capcom, and Namco basically screwed Sony on this deal.

That's more or less how I've come to look at it. Nintendo's own fairly bad efforts to have an easy, digital platform to buy their old games on made the SNES Mini have much higher value than it would've had otherwise. PSN has SO many of these games on it, or these games have had other re-releases very recently otherwise, that the 20 extra bucks that the PSC really has a tough time justifying why anyone should bother buying it when they can just buy the games in that collection they actually want on their current gen Sony console for 6 bucks a pop or so.

You got it, and you want to make this list look even crappier where it almost becomes evidently clear they just decided to not try other than to make a box to cash in on an effort of Nintendo's again? Check the wikipedia link for Sony owned/made properties for the PS1. You'll see some very very heavy hitters that should have been included. Mind you this list is for all of their systems, but it's not hard to find what I mean: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_Inte ... properties

Wipeout, Mister Mosquito, Killzone, Omega Boost, Medievil, Arc the Lad, and so on. They really didn't try to the point it was like they just threw games on paper in a hat and just pulled out stuff at random other than any bad pulls with poorly rated/loved games were tossed for a re-pull. There's just zero logic behind it at all from their own first party end of it, but when you figure the third parties not playing nice much either it's just bizarre.

[PartridgeSenpai]

Wipeout, Mister Mosquito, Killzone, Omega Boost, Medievil, Arc the Lad, and so on. They really didn't try to the point it was like they just threw games on paper in a hat and just pulled out stuff at random other than any bad pulls with poorly rated/loved games were tossed for a re-pull. There's just zero logic behind it at all from their own first party end of it, but when you figure the third parties not playing nice much either it's just bizarre.

Mister Mosquito and Killzone are PS2 games, so I wouldn't say those particularly count, but it is a real head-scratcher that they didn't include Medievil when they have a remake of that coming out soon. Why not introduce people to the original? Why include Mr. Driller when you could show people Arc the Lad or Armored Core, cool RPG's they may have never experienced before? Unless Mr. Driller is about to be revealed as a character in the Smash Bros Nintendo Direct tomorrow, I don't really see why a game like that (or any of the other filler-ish multiplats, for that matter) are on there when Sony themselves have so many cards still up their sleeve that they wouldn't even need to pay licensing fees to include on here.

[samsonlonghair]

Wipeout, Mister Mosquito, Killzone, Omega Boost, Medievil, Arc the Lad, and so on. They really didn't try to the point it was like they just threw games on paper in a hat and just pulled out stuff at random other than any bad pulls with poorly rated/loved games were tossed for a re-pull. There's just zero logic behind it at all from their own first party end of it, but when you figure the third parties not playing nice much either it's just bizarre.

Mister Mosquito and Killzone are PS2 games, so I wouldn't say those particularly count, but it is a real head-scratcher that they didn't include Medievil when they have a remake of that coming out soon. Why not introduce people to the original? Why include Mr. Driller when you could show people Arc the Lad or Armored Core, cool RPG's they may have never experienced before? Unless Mr. Driller is about to be revealed as a character in the Smash Bros Nintendo Direct tomorrow, I don't really see why a game like that (or any of the other filler-ish multiplats, for that matter) are on there when Sony themselves have so many cards still up their sleeve that they wouldn't even need to pay licensing fees to include on here.

Sony could have included Legend of Dragoon. They own the game; they built it in house at SCEA. Legend of Dragoon wouldn’t have cost Sony a penny in licensing.

[Michi]

Sony could have included Legend of Dragoon. They own the game; they built it in house at SCEA. Legend of Dragoon wouldn’t have cost Sony a penny in licensing.

I've already said that I'm not interested in the current line-up.

But if Sony released a 'Playstation Classic RPG Edition'....that I'd likely be tempted by.

[Jagosaurus]

Anyone priced up this list on PSN to see what they'd run a la carte or if some are missing?

IIRC, 2 of the original 5 weren't on PSN.

[Edit/Add]
Correction, Tekken 3 out of 1st 5 list wasn't on PSN list online. Haven't checked other 15 recently listed.

Games seem to run $6 usually with FFVII being $10, so this is roughly $124 worth of PSN games.

Hm... Do we know what is under what looks to be an expansion port bay to left?


Really wish Sony would release future game packs somehow... wireless adapter to internet, DL locked file to USB... something. I think it's a missed opportunity:

IGN has just confirmed via a Sony representative that the PlayStation Classic will not have the ability to add more PS1 games to its 20-title library down the line, nor will it possess any sort of online connectivity.

[Tanooki]

It's kind of easy to do, sort of. The general rule seems to be for 1 CD games $5.99, and then I think 2+CD are $9.99.

The thing is they very very often do standard and flash sales on PS1 stuff and it's commonly at 50% off.

So with 20 games, and I think 2 of them are on more than one disc. $6x18 +$20 $128 standard, but if patient with the often sales, as low as $64. They diluted the value of their games so hard through the PSP, Vita, PS3 marketplace for PS1 games it makes it even less of a value. Consider their 20 against the SNES CE 20 that value nearly $1000 (more if you could tabulate an honest valued price for Starfox 2.)

[Jagosaurus]

Edited/added to my post above. Came up with roughly same # dollars.

Tekken 3 not on PSN. Are all 19 others?

Sidebar, if I buy a used OG PSP (not Go) today, PSN is still supported? Pretty awesome with it being 14 years old. Adds some value to it.

I'll say it again... the PS-C has me looking more into a Vita

[PartridgeSenpai]

Anyone priced up this list on PSN to see what they'd run a la carte or if some are missing?

IIRC, 2 of the original 5 weren't on PSN.

Full North American list of games with PSN Prices
[N/A indicates it's not on PSN]

N/A : Battle Arena Toshinden
$6 : Cool Boarders 2
$6 : Destruction Derby [the sequel isn't actually on PSN for whatever reason]
$10 : Final Fantasy VII [A PS4 version is actually available for $16 as well]
N/A : Grand Theft Auto
N/A : Intelligent Qube [It is on PSN in Europe and Aisa, however, and creating and using a foreign PSN account to purchase games for your single console is not that hard]
$6 : Jumping Flash
$10 : Metal Gear Solid
$6 : Mr Driller
$6 : Oddworld: Abe’s Oddysee
$6 : Rayman
$10 : Resident Evil Director’s Cut
N/A : Revelations: Persona [Not technically on there, but the PSP port which is widely considered to be a superior version/localization is $20 and could be played on a PSTV like any PSOne Classic could be]
$6 : Ridge Racer Type 4
N/A : Super Puzzle Fighter II Turbo [Again, not technically on there, but it got an HD remake on PS3 that's $10, and Capcom Puzzle world is a PSP game on there for $10 that has SPF2 as well as several other puzzle games]
$6 : Syphon Filter
N/A : Tekken 3 [1 and 2 are, but not 3 oddly enough O_o]
$6 : Tom Clancy’s Rainbow Six
$6 : Twisted Metal
$6 : Wild Arms
Total of American PSN: $126 for all but 4 of them, and those 4 are quite cheap to own on disk.


My Verdict: If you actually REALLY want ALL of these games, the PS Classic is a fairly cost-effective way to get all these games to own digitally and legitly. HOWEVER, should you NOT want EVERY SINGLE ONE of these games, they're all very easily purchasable on the PSN store for far cheaper if you have a PSP, PSVita, PS3, or especially a PSTV. Granted that a lot of the games not on PSN are super common cheap games as well, and a PSTV will run you about 80 bucks these days, I'd say it's way easier to just use your PS3 and buy the games physically to play or just buy a PSTV and the couple games you want for it instead of shelling out a hundo for the PS Classic.

[Reprise]

Yeah, I'm going to cancel my pre-order.