World is Falling Apart Thread (Locked forever)

[marurun]

And a knack for it, too. Some folks get a taste for the power but don't respect the workings. Those are the ones I worry about.

Well, maybe she's got a knack for playing the political game, but I'm not sure she's actually achieved anything of significance.

I think she's done better than many politicians. The senate and house are awash with politicians with nothing to their name other than belligerence and a knack for re-election.

[Ack]

I think she's done better than many politicians. The senate and house are awash with politicians with nothing to their name other than belligerence and a knack for re-election.

You mean pretty much everyone in politics?

[dsheinem]

I'm not sure she's actually achieved anything of significance.

Her resume is much more significant than any of the candidates that have formally thrown their hat in the ring. She was a Senator for eight years and Secretary of State for four, and has a clear record of accomplishments (and controversy, of course) associated with each position.

Cruz and Paul barely have a combined six years in the Senate and no substantive national experience otherwise.

[marurun]

I think she's done better than many politicians. The senate and house are awash with politicians with nothing to their name other than belligerence and a knack for re-election.

You mean pretty much everyone in politics?

Sadly, yes.

But I was trying not to thoroughly depress myself.

[Jmustang1968]

I'm not sure she's actually achieved anything of significance.

Her resume is much more significant than any of the candidates that have formally thrown their hat in the ring. She was a Senator for eight years and Secretary of State for four, and has a clear record of accomplishments (and controversy, of course) associated with each position.

Cruz and Paul barely have a combined six years in the Senate and no substantive national experience otherwise.

But I think most of her support really stems from being a politically active First Lady to a fairly popular President.

[marurun]

But I think most of her support really stems from being a politically active First Lady to a fairly popular President.

I do not know whether or not this is true, but even if it is, that in no way undercuts her professional or political history of accomplishments. It just means that some of her supporters may be overlooking other reasons to support her.

[dsheinem]

Strictly on the basis of national and global experience, Clinton is easily heads and shoulders above the crowd in both the GOP and the Democratic Party.

However, we most recently elected as president a first term senator, a governor, and another governor -- so I don't know that years of experience on the national or global stage is something that, at least in the 21st Century, voters seem to care much about thus far.

[MrPopo]

Strictly on the basis of national and global experience, Clinton is easily heads and shoulders above the crowd in both the GOP and the Democratic Party.

However, we most recently elected as president a first term senator, a governor, and another governor -- so I don't know that years of experience on the national or global stage is something that, at least in the 21st Century, voters seem to care much about thus far.

What DO you think voters seem to care about? Obviously we can throw out the people who always vote the party, but what about the middle?

[dsheinem]

Strictly on the basis of national and global experience, Clinton is easily heads and shoulders above the crowd in both the GOP and the Democratic Party.

However, we most recently elected as president a first term senator, a governor, and another governor -- so I don't know that years of experience on the national or global stage is something that, at least in the 21st Century, voters seem to care much about thus far.

What DO you think voters seem to care about? Obviously we can throw out the people who always vote the party, but what about the middle?

short answer: The voters are generally a fickle, foolish lot.

better (?) answer: What the middle of the road voters "care about" on election day typically depends too much on contextual stuff that occurs post-convention (e.g. the most recent narratives of the election, the horse race, some recent national event, a faux pas in a debate, etc.). The job of nominating a candidate is generally in picking someone who can speak to both past, current, and anticipated future contexts that will inform the last few months of the campaign.

[Sarge]

Serious question: I realize that she certainly has experience, with being First Lady, Senator, and Secretary of State, but what are the specific things of note that she accomplished in those roles?