Wii-U thoughts so far

NES, SNES, N64, Gamecube, Wii

Wii-U

I'm in for one
120
43%
Maybe later
96
35%
Not interested
45
16%
Undecided
16
6%
 
Total votes: 277

User avatar
Retrogamer0001
Next-Gen
Posts: 1665
Joined: Tue Mar 01, 2011 8:56 pm
Location: Canada

Re: Wii-U thoughts so far

Post by Retrogamer0001 »

So, did everyone's Wii consoles suddenly explode? If not, why is everyone so upset? Aren't most of us here fans of playing games on their original hardware?
Last edited by Retrogamer0001 on Wed Jun 18, 2014 4:11 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Image

The game room - > http://racketboy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=45478

"We're on an express elevator to hell - goin' down!"
User avatar
BogusMeatFactory
Next-Gen
Posts: 6770
Joined: Mon Jan 26, 2009 3:16 pm
Location: Farmington Hills, MI
Contact:

Re: Wii-U thoughts so far

Post by BogusMeatFactory »

Exhuminator wrote:
Flake wrote:My car will also sync to a wiimote bluetooth signal. But then what does it do?
Nothing, because it isn't looking for specific information that is encoded in the Wii Remote bluetooth frequency.
isiolia wrote:Based on the link he posted to Eurogamer, the Gamepad is sending input via WiFi, not Bluetooth.
In that case Nintendo could offer a WiFi to bluetooth adapter that simply converts the WiFi signal of the GamePad into the bluetooth frequency used by Wii Remotes. The transmitter could then encode the frequency of the Wii Remote plus Classic Controller Pro. I think that would work. It would also mean Nintendo would sell less existing Classic Controller (or CC Pro) stock though.
Doesn't what you propose result in an egregious amount of work. Look...I don't own a classic controller and find it annoying that things like the pro controller can't substitute for it, but guess what? I don't care that much! How many of you people complaining actually own a classic controller already? I know some of you do!

The X360 isn't completely backwards compatible, and the Xbox One isn't at all. The PS3 is only PS2 backwards compatible with the first generation and even then it has lots of issues and the PS4 is not backwards compatible. The Wii U is backwards compatible and works great and still requires the same controllers that you had with the Wii games.

Their mindset is if you had those games before and used the classic controller before, there is no need to go that extra mile to wind through the complexities of making the gamepad or pro controller work. Everyone seems to think it is a simple switch they flip to make it work and it isn't.

No Wii game requires the classic controller exclusively.
Ack wrote:I don't know, chief, the haunting feeling of lust I feel whenever I look at your avatar makes me think it's real.
-I am the idiot that likes to have fun and be happy.
User avatar
Exhuminator
Next-Gen
Posts: 11573
Joined: Tue Apr 30, 2013 8:24 am
Contact:

Re: Wii-U thoughts so far

Post by Exhuminator »

Flake wrote:And an emulated Wii is not looking for specific information that is encoded in the WiiU pad bluetooth frequency.
With a firmware update it could be looking for that specific information though.

I agree however, it's all about the money, not the technological limitations, that's stopping Nintendo from doing this.

Now what I want to know is does this:
Image
Allow GameCube controller support for Wii U VC compatible games? Or is this just for the next Smash Bros. only?
PLAY KING'S FIELD.
User avatar
isiolia
Next-Gen
Posts: 5785
Joined: Mon May 16, 2011 1:52 pm
Location: Virginia

Re: Wii-U thoughts so far

Post by isiolia »

BogusMeatFactory wrote: Their mindset is if you had those games before and used the classic controller before, there is no need to go that extra mile to wind through the complexities of making the gamepad or pro controller work.
It sure would make off-TV play of Wii games (and all the stuff they've not yet brought over from the Wii VC) more convenient though. :lol:
Flake
Moderator
Posts: 8075
Joined: Wed Dec 16, 2009 3:27 pm
Location: FoCo

Re: Wii-U thoughts so far

Post by Flake »

Which brings us to the difference between using firmware updates to add features and the immense luxury that is a real life piece of hardware sitting between the controller and the machine.

What that adapter will likely do is run gamecube controller input through a small program and translate it to pro-controller input.

It won't, however, work on Wii games. I wouldn't be surprised if the Gamecube controllers that are being designed to plug into wiimotes would, though.
Maybe now Nintendo will acknowledge Metroid has a fanbase?
User avatar
BogusMeatFactory
Next-Gen
Posts: 6770
Joined: Mon Jan 26, 2009 3:16 pm
Location: Farmington Hills, MI
Contact:

Re: Wii-U thoughts so far

Post by BogusMeatFactory »

isiolia wrote:
BogusMeatFactory wrote: Their mindset is if you had those games before and used the classic controller before, there is no need to go that extra mile to wind through the complexities of making the gamepad or pro controller work.
It sure would make off-TV play of Wii games (and all the stuff they've not yet brought over from the Wii VC) more convenient though. :lol:
You can use off TV play of Wii Games and use the classic controller.
Ack wrote:I don't know, chief, the haunting feeling of lust I feel whenever I look at your avatar makes me think it's real.
-I am the idiot that likes to have fun and be happy.
User avatar
isiolia
Next-Gen
Posts: 5785
Joined: Mon May 16, 2011 1:52 pm
Location: Virginia

Re: Wii-U thoughts so far

Post by isiolia »

BogusMeatFactory wrote: You can use off TV play of Wii Games and use the classic controller.
Right, but wanting to use the controller that's built into the screen you'd be looking at seems like a reasonable request.
Flake
Moderator
Posts: 8075
Joined: Wed Dec 16, 2009 3:27 pm
Location: FoCo

Re: Wii-U thoughts so far

Post by Flake »

isiolia wrote:
BogusMeatFactory wrote: You can use off TV play of Wii Games and use the classic controller.
Right, but wanting to use the controller that's built into the screen you'd be looking at seems like a reasonable request.
But that's the rub. The controller isn't built into the screen. The screen and buttons just happen to be housed in the same piece of plastic. They communicate with the console through separate mediums.
Maybe now Nintendo will acknowledge Metroid has a fanbase?
User avatar
isiolia
Next-Gen
Posts: 5785
Joined: Mon May 16, 2011 1:52 pm
Location: Virginia

Re: Wii-U thoughts so far

Post by isiolia »

Flake wrote: But that's the rub. The controller isn't built into the screen. The screen and buttons just happen to be housed in the same piece of plastic. They communicate with the console through separate mediums.
Well, technically, both are using Wifi, no? That said, I get it. The Wii OS doesn't access that hardware. Off-TV function works because you can leave the h.264 encoder and Miricast-alike on when you boot into that, but then the Wii U OS closes out (or gets suspended or whatever it does) and you can't toggle it. The Wii side only knows native Wii stuff.

All I'm saying is that making the Gamepad controller work is, at that point, an obvious request. When Nintendo was implementing off-TV Wii display support, there couldn't have been a day they didn't realize that it would be something people would want.
User avatar
jay_red
Next-Gen
Posts: 1734
Joined: Sun Nov 07, 2010 2:05 am

Re: Wii-U thoughts so far

Post by jay_red »

Retrogamer0001 wrote:So, did everyone's Wii consoles suddenly explode? If not, why is everyone so upset? Aren't most of us here fans of playing games on their original hardware?
As I got to the end of the previous page of this thread, I was thinking this exact thing, and then you were the first post on the next page! Any limitations of the Wii mode do not concern me, I haven't even launched the Wii mode on my Wii U. If I wanted to play anything on the Wii, I have mine sitting on the shelf below my Wii U.

All of that said, I still think it is cool that you can use the game pad screen for Wii games, and it even has that built in sensor light.
Post Reply