Wii-U thoughts so far

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I'm in for one
120
43%
Maybe later
96
35%
Not interested
45
16%
Undecided
16
6%
 
Total votes: 277

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Xeogred wrote:
dsheinem wrote:One of the big reasons people aren't getting excited about the Wii U is because even though it has an increasing amount of exclusives, most of its AAA titles aren't showing off graphics or in-game experiences that haven't been had previously on the PS3/360. I mean, this partially explains its sagging sales, right? Sure, HD Mario Kart 8 looks nicer than the SD Mario Kart Wii, but it doesn't look leaps and bounds better than Sonic's All-Star Racer, which came out four years ago or Wipeout HD, which came out six years ago.
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am i wrong? Video game news and hype have ALWAYS been linked to graphics and new ideas...

As retro gamers who enjoy old games and don't care about graphics very much we are the exception.
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darsparx wrote:I still think the big thing is most people are expecting so much out of the consoles so early.
Well with such a high asking price what do you expect? :P
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The pad isn't all that innovative either, most of the new gameplay ideas are just transplantations of ideas already done on the DS.

Doesn't help that Nintendo own franchises have been growing rather sterile as they've started really milking that nostalgia well dry. They still make high quality software, but it's hard to explain to someone why they should pick up the newest installments in these various franchises when all you can say is that "it's still really good."

Mario 3D World is a fantastic game, incredibly well made in pretty much every aspect, and I might even go as far as to call it my favorite game in the franchise since Super Mario World, but let's face it, it's only got a handful of genuinely new ideas. Most everything else is just bringing back stuff from previous games in the franchise, it's all just capitalizing on nostalgia.

It all feels very "safe," which wouldn't be THAT huge a problem if not for the fact that thanks to these sales slumps, we don't really have very much in the way of interesting 3rd party games to pick up the slack.
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dsheinem wrote:am i wrong? Video game news and hype have ALWAYS been linked to graphics and new ideas...

As retro gamers who enjoy old games and don't care about graphics very much we are the exception.
I wish it weren't so. With the 1080p vs Xbone can't do it obsession right now, yeah.

If you ask me graphics are the absolute last thing this gen is going to need to worry about.
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darsparx wrote:I still think the big thing is most people are expecting so much out of the consoles so early.
Well with such a high asking price what do you expect? :P
Yeah but still, it's the same pattern every time a new console is released. Which goes like this: tons of hype when it's announced. Then when it's released many buy it, expecting there to be tons of games yet most of them don't come out for a month or two(maybe more I'm looking at you watch dogs with your constant delays there for awhile). Then they get pissed and say it's the worst console but in 2-3 years it's a different story. Though wii u doesn't have that luxury of 2-3 years later it seems, since most developers right now are a little wary to put out much on it(though there are lists saying there's tons coming out). Not to mention I think most have been waiting to see nintendo's own games that test the hardware to be released(aka mk8, smash bros, a new zelda, and a new mario). Which those are only coming out, what 2 years later after the console was released? Sure we got the new mario right off the bat it seems but mario kart, and smash bros are just now coming out(and a zelda title is supposedly on the way and might be announced at e3 which it should be anyways).
AppleQueso wrote:The pad isn't all that innovative either, most of the new gameplay ideas are just transplantations of ideas already done on the DS.

Doesn't help that Nintendo own franchises have been growing rather sterile as they've started really milking that nostalgia well dry. They still make high quality software, but it's hard to explain to someone why they should pick up the newest installments in these various franchises when all you can say is that "it's still really good."

Mario 3D World is a fantastic game, incredibly well made in pretty much every aspect, and I might even go as far as to call it my favorite game in the franchise since Super Mario World, but let's face it, it's only got a handful of genuinely new ideas. Most everything else is just bringing back stuff from previous games in the franchise, it's all just capitalizing on nostalgia.

It all feels very "safe," which wouldn't be THAT huge a problem if not for the fact that thanks to these sales slumps, we don't really have very much in the way of interesting 3rd party games to pick up the slack.
Yeah, but I think the goal was to create a seamless home and portable environment(which it doesn't seem many want to take true advantage of the console). And yeah super mario 3d world does seem a little too safe. I was actually expecting a true sm64, smss, or smg type game, and this one semi satisfies that from what I've watched online but it's not quite there...
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http://www.polygon.com/2014/5/15/571816 ... ries-sales

This articles says that Mario Kart 8 will be the second worst selling Mario Kart in history, and he has a point... Simply because if every Wii U owner got one, there will only be 6 million units sold and there is only 1 Mario Kart game that sold less than 6 million units...

Sounds really bad how he puts its,even though 6 million is very successful.

I still can't believe Mario Kart Wii sold 35m thats like more than COD and GTA 5. I hated that game...
AppleQueso wrote:The pad isn't all that innovative either, most of the new gameplay ideas are just transplantations of ideas already done on the DS.

Doesn't help that Nintendo own franchises have been growing rather sterile as they've started really milking that nostalgia well dry. They still make high quality software, but it's hard to explain to someone why they should pick up the newest installments in these various franchises when all you can say is that "it's still really good."

Mario 3D World is a fantastic game, incredibly well made in pretty much every aspect, and I might even go as far as to call it my favorite game in the franchise since Super Mario World, but let's face it, it's only got a handful of genuinely new ideas. Most everything else is just bringing back stuff from previous games in the franchise, it's all just capitalizing on nostalgia.

It all feels very "safe," which wouldn't be THAT huge a problem if not for the fact that thanks to these sales slumps, we don't really have very much in the way of interesting 3rd party games to pick up the slack.
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Fun fact: I had Dave give a guest presentation for the students in my First Year Seminar course this year. Us Nintendo-haters gotta stick together.
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AppleQueso wrote:
Doesn't help that Nintendo own franchises have been growing rather sterile as they've started really milking that nostalgia well dry. They still make high quality software, but it's hard to explain to someone why they should pick up the newest installments in these various franchises when all you can say is that "it's still really good."

It all feels very "safe," which wouldn't be THAT huge a problem if not for the fact that thanks to these sales slumps, we don't really have very much in the way of interesting 3rd party games to pick up the slack.
Couldn't the same be said about most of the industry? The AAA market is stagnating and budgets are getting astronomical so risk taking and new ideas arent going to be as prevalent as in the many years past. The gaming industry is so focused and built around mega franchises and sequels more so than even Hollywood.



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AppleQueso wrote:
Doesn't help that Nintendo own franchises have been growing rather sterile as they've started really milking that nostalgia well dry. They still make high quality software, but it's hard to explain to someone why they should pick up the newest installments in these various franchises when all you can say is that "it's still really good."

It all feels very "safe," which wouldn't be THAT huge a problem if not for the fact that thanks to these sales slumps, we don't really have very much in the way of interesting 3rd party games to pick up the slack.
Couldn't the same be said about most of the industry? The AAA market is stagnating and budgets are getting astronomical so risk taking and new ideas arent going to be as prevalent as in the many years past. The gaming industry is so focused and built around mega franchises and sequels more so than even Hollywood.
Eh, maybe, but even if that's the case it makes Nintendo's adherence to that formula even more puzzling, because they haven't exactly followed the rest of the industry in anything else they've been doing.
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