RCBH928 wrote:
2)I was not exactly discussing if Ben Affleck was going down or up in his career, but I was trying to give examples. Maybe this particular actor is picking up again. I do not rate quality with the Oscars any more, I just can't put Argo and Slumdog millionaire with Gone With The Wind and The Godfather. I am sorry.
Ben Affleck isn't just picking up, he has skyrocketed as a great director and a very good actor. Even before Argo, it was the Town and before that was Gone Baby Gone. You are right, you can't put these movies in with Gone with the Wind and the Godfather, because movies have changed, sometimes for the better, sometimes for the worse. No one is trying to say one thing is better than another. That is just like saying one generation of gaming is clearly better than another, or an era of paintings are better than another.
RCBH928 wrote:
3) For people who are arguing that Adam Sandler is making money. There is a difference between making money and making quality . According to wikipedia, The Shawshank Redemption merely made profit , yet its ranked #1 in top 250 films on IMDB. Justin Bieber is probably making big bucks but I do not see people recognize him as an added talent to the music industry.
Yes there is a difference between making money and making quality, but you are missing out the third element and that is popularity. Guess what? Adam Sandler is popular. Should that be the case? For me, no, but for the rest of the world, they have decided so. With Justin Bieber, he wins awards, he has millions of adoring fans and he is batshit crazy.
RCBH928 wrote:
The fact that some actors/musicians were on top then faded away, while others continue on top over the decades of their career, makes me think that there is some sort of hollywood politics in the sense that if they like you they will shoot you to the stars, and if they started unlike you you will be a forgotten memory.
Of course, this is only my interpretation of the topic, it can be right or wrong.
There are politics in Hollywood. You can burn so bright that you burn all your bridges. Like I stated previously in the thread with Jim Carrey, he had some very erratic and destructive behavior in films like the Number 23 by urinating on set. In other films like Fun With Dick and Jane, he would yell at the director for giving him direction. That sort of behavior can make the big studios not want to work with you.
You would think Jamie Foxx would have a better career after Ray, but that guy is a complete diva and guess what? He doesn't get many films.
What do you think happened to Joaquin Phoenix with his Andy Kauffman-esque stunt that was the film, "I'm Still Here." It was a big joke that killed his career.
