Does it make a difference if I buy a PAL PS3?

[RyaNtheSlayA]

Those are cost-reduced pieces of sh*t. Even if you can expand the harddrive, don't buy a super slim on account of the actual hardware being absolute junk. Also they won't play PS1 discs whatsoever from any region. You're much better off buying a used 120GB PS3 slim. You'll probably even up paying less if you go that route.

This is wrong. My Super Slim played my PS1 discs just fine, just like every single PS3. I also preferred the sliding top over the slot loading drive, but that, of course, is personal preference.

The biggest problem is limited storage and no potential expansion if you go for a 12gb.

[Satoshi_Matrix]

Really? My buddy has a Super Slim, and his will not play any PS1 disc at all. It gives the same sort of error message if you try a PS2 disc.

He says the tray mechanism is cheap, and the only reason he has it at all is for his kid who doesn't need storage as she only plays a handful of child-friendly games.

Anyway to the OP, you're best off going with an NTSC PS3 slim (not super slim). You can find them used for reasonable prices, and as long as you buy one that's in normal working order and from someone trustworthy, you'll be fine.

[RyaNtheSlayA]

Really? My buddy has a Super Slim, and his will not play any PS1 disc at all. It gives the same sort of error message if you try a PS2 disc.

He says the tray mechanism is cheap, and the only reason he has it at all is for his kid who doesn't need storage as she only plays a handful of child-friendly games.

Anyway to the OP, you're best off going with an NTSC PS3 slim (not super slim). You can find them used for reasonable prices, and as long as you buy one that's in normal working order and from someone trustworthy, you'll be fine.

Yup. Works just fine for me, and most other people as well.

The tray... well. It's no more cheap than a PS1 tray and certainly better than the PS2 slim. It's definitely not a quality tray though, like the Dreamcast or Saturn's.

[RCBH928]

Thanks Satoshi Matrix and Ryan for the info

I have been looking at PS3's on Amazon and the price difference between a ps4 and a ps3 is $150 only. It is a very small difference between a 7 year old technology and the next technology for the coming 7 years.

At the moment , I do not want a ps4 but I feel that $250 is just too much for a ps3 as good as it is. I have a really good feeling that prices will go down to $100-$150 pretty soon. I mean we are technically only 3 months away from PS4 release.

Also the difference between a brand new PS3 and a used one is only $50 so its not worth it getting used. Maybe I should wait for another month or so? I mean I have been waiting for around 7 years :p


@Hobie-wan

I never understood the region lock thing. If the reason is because some countries laws and regulations will not allow selling of a certain media type without matching certain criteria then they should not sell it WITHIN that country. If I travel and purchase that item or order it over the mail , my system should not forbid me from running it. That is a negative , especially when you consider the cheaper alternative can run any media type.

Btw, I have a Sony dvd player that I bought about 5 years ago it will run anything. I also got a Samsun Bluray player that I had to do some sort of a setup and now it will play all regions. There should be some kind of similar option like that on the PS3/4 .

[Hobie-wan]

I never understood the region lock thing. If the reason is because some countries laws and regulations will not allow selling of a certain media type without matching certain criteria then they should not sell it WITHIN that country. If I travel and purchase that item or order it over the mail , my system should not forbid me from running it. That is a negative , especially when you consider the cheaper alternative can run any media type.

Greed is the answer. So they can artificially stagger releases of things in different countries and price things differently in different countries. So in markets with less money, they might get things priced cheaper to still try and get money from that market that would never be able to afford (or would simply pirate) something at a high price elsewhere. But by region locking it, that prevents the 'richer' place from just getting the cheap version.

Btw, I have a Sony dvd player that I bought about 5 years ago it will run anything. I also got a Samsun Bluray player that I had to do some sort of a setup and now it will play all regions. There should be some kind of similar option like that on the PS3/4 .

They were likely both loaded with hacked firmware or might be counterfeit items since they're not from little noname companies.

[SpoonyBard]

I'd imagine within the next few months you'll see the price on used PS3's go down as more and more are sold/traded in for PS4's. I'd just wait for a deal. I paid well under $200 for my 120gb Slim, and that was a couple years ago.

[RCBH928]

@SpoonyBard

I never got this. People should not be buying new PS4 by replacing their ps3 for the following reasons:
1)It has a very very small game library
2)Its priced higher
3) First shipments usually have issues. I bought my 360 a full year later it still had RROD
4) The good games do not roll out until about a year or 2 later(prices would have been decreased and any faults in manufacturing would have been fixed)

5)The PS3 has a huge game library
6)The games are much cheaper(many are used,while all ps4 games are new $60)
7)Depending on your model , PS3 is PS1 or/and ps2 compatible
8)Huge install base of online players

I kind of understand the ps2->ps3 jump because ps3 gave you Bluray, Online, HD, and local storage(hard drive), and it was going to play all your ps2/ps1 games that you have. PS4 does not have any new technology to add to the current ones, and even more, it will play NONE of the current games you have.

I am not against the ps4, but just saying most people should wait a bit before replacing your console.

but in the end, this will benefit me

Greed is the answer. So they can artificially stagger releases of things in different countries and price things differently in different countries. So in markets with less money, they might get things priced cheaper to still try and get money from that market that would never be able to afford (or would simply pirate) something at a high price elsewhere. But by region locking it, that prevents the 'richer' place from just getting the cheap version.

To be honest, I kind of agree with them. I know for sure a place like Egypt will not buy a $10 dvd. People over there will fight over a $1 . While where I live, or the USA, many people can afford to pay $10 for entertainment only.

If people honestly can't afford to pay those kind of prices in one country due to weak economy/poverty I have no trouble if they would decrease the prices for like $1 . Then again, I never got why England has a region lock over PAL and USA has it over NTSC while both countries' population are well off. In fact, prices for dvd's seem to be about the same in both continents.

They were likely both loaded with hacked firmware or might be counterfeit items since they're not from little noname companies.

Well , I bought it from a Walmart like place but here I will not be surprised if it is counterfeited with the Sony brand on it.

[SpoonyBard]

I never got this. People should not be buying new PS4 by replacing their ps3

I'm certainly not doing that. In fact, I probably won't buy a PS4 for a few more years. But plenty of people will trade in their old consoles for the newest ones. It's no different than trading in games. You've played it, you want something new, you won't play the old thing any more now that you have the new thing - so you trade it in and save some money on the new thing.

And honestly, it's something I can't argue with. I should really sell my Amiga CD32 and use the money to get something that i'd use more often. Am I going to? Are you kidding?! What if I want to play Last Ninja 3 again?!

Have I played Last Ninja 3 in the past year and a half? No. Am I going to play it this year? Probably not. But I like having it, just in case.

If I picked up a PS4 and games at launch, and played exclusively those games - they would probably fill all of the time I have to game in an average week. I'd really have no need for my PS3 (or anything else for that matter). I, personally, would never be satisfied with only a small handful of games to play, but they would more than occupy my time, and it's certainly more than enough for most people.