alcohol/drug stance

[nucking futs]

Why's that?

Because smoking weed is more harmfull than smoking a cigarette, even if smoked pure. The problem about smoking is the stuff that does not burn completely and therefore produces all kinds of carcinogene oxygenes. With weed it's not different, usually it's way more harmfull because it's not completely dry which leads to even more carcinogenes. Other than that it will be even tougher to resist smoking a cigarette when the weed flow is not given.

So either ditch both, or stop smoking weed and eat or vaporize it, though my advice is to leave it completely.

[Hatta]

Wow, this thread's still going?

In response to nucking futs, there's actually no increase in cancer rates among marijuana smokers. (Cite:http://www.webmd.com/lung-cancer/news/2 ... ung-cancer). Yes there's more carcinogens, but THC also has a tumor suppressive effect. Not only that, but you smoke a lot less pot than you do tobacco. Figure a gram a day for a heavy pot smoker. Now consider a pack a day tobacco smoker, conservatively estimate .5g/cig @ 20cigs a day = 10g/day. Even if pot had twice the carcinogens that tobacco does, you're still looking at 5x more carcinogens by smoking tobacco instead of pot.

Not only that, but nicotine paralyzes the cilia in your lungs that help expel all that gunk you're inhaling. So it just sits around being carcinogenic. My GF (an even heavier pot smoker than I) quit smoking cigs a couple years back, she feels a lot better, doesn't get winded as easily, doesn't have a nasty smokers cough anymore. So yeah, I highly recommend quitting tobacco even if you're still smoking pot. Why do all that to your body when nicotine doesn't even get you high?

BTW kids, no matter what your Canadian/European friends tell you, never ever EVER mix your pot with tobacco. That's just nasty.

[nucking futs]

Wow, this thread's still going?

In response to nucking futs, there's actually no increase in cancer rates among marijuana smokers. (Cite:http://www.webmd.com/lung-cancer/news/2 ... ung-cancer). Yes there's more carcinogens, but THC also has a tumor suppressive effect. Not only that, but you smoke a lot less pot than you do tobacco. Figure a gram a day for a heavy pot smoker. Now consider a pack a day tobacco smoker, conservatively estimate .5g/cig @ 20cigs a day = 10g/day. Even if pot had twice the carcinogens that tobacco does, you're still looking at 5x more carcinogens by smoking tobacco instead of pot.

Not only that, but nicotine paralyzes the cilia in your lungs that help expel all that gunk you're inhaling. So it just sits around being carcinogenic. My GF (an even heavier pot smoker than I) quit smoking cigs a couple years back, she feels a lot better, doesn't get winded as easily, doesn't have a nasty smokers cough anymore. So yeah, I highly recommend quitting tobacco even if you're still smoking pot. Why do all that to your body when nicotine doesn't even get you high?

BTW kids, no matter what your Canadian/European friends tell you, never ever EVER mix your pot with tobacco. That's just nasty.

Well your explanation goes for people who smoke it pure, around here and i bet in many other parts of the earth people do mix it with tobacco, even though it's nasty, which i have to admit. Still the risk is there and don't forget: "You don't always die from tobacco"

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Wow, this thread's still going?

In response to nucking futs, there's actually no increase in cancer rates among marijuana smokers. (Cite:http://www.webmd.com/lung-cancer/news/2 ... ung-cancer). Yes there's more carcinogens, but THC also has a tumor suppressive effect. Not only that, but you smoke a lot less pot than you do tobacco. Figure a gram a day for a heavy pot smoker. Now consider a pack a day tobacco smoker, conservatively estimate .5g/cig @ 20cigs a day = 10g/day. Even if pot had twice the carcinogens that tobacco does, you're still looking at 5x more carcinogens by smoking tobacco instead of pot.

Not only that, but nicotine paralyzes the cilia in your lungs that help expel all that gunk you're inhaling. So it just sits around being carcinogenic. My GF (an even heavier pot smoker than I) quit smoking cigs a couple years back, she feels a lot better, doesn't get winded as easily, doesn't have a nasty smokers cough anymore. So yeah, I highly recommend quitting tobacco even if you're still smoking pot. Why do all that to your body when nicotine doesn't even get you high?

BTW kids, no matter what your Canadian/European friends tell you, never ever EVER mix your pot with tobacco. That's just nasty.

Well your explanation goes for people who smoke it pure, around here and i bet in many other parts of the earth people do mix it with tobacco, even though it's nasty, which i have to admit. Still the risk is there and don't forget: "You don't always die from tobacco"

why the hell would you mix pot with tobacco? that is about the most retarded thing i ever heard of, especially if you got some really nice fluffy buds. it would ruin the weed!?!? wtf

[Ack]

I don't know. Some people soak pot in Draino and then smoke that. I don't know why.

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pot is like a fine wine. I would probably orgasm all over myself if i got a judges pass and airfare to the Cannibus Cup. i dont understand why people would want to ruin it with tobbacco, and i have never heard of anybody soaking pot in draino that sounds like bs. i have heard of people dipping cigs or pot in famaldahyde(sp), which i don't understand either(say it makes them trip), but draino wtf?

[disorderlyvision]

The latest NORML e-newsletter...


Marijuana Arrests For Year 2007: 872,721 Tops Record High -Five Percent Increase Over 2006-

Washington, DC: Police arrested a record 872,721 persons for marijuana violations in 2007, according to the Federal Bureau of Investigation's annual Uniform Crime Report, released today. This is the largest total number of annual arrests for cannabis ever recorded by the FBI.

Cannabis arrests now comprise nearly 47.5 percent of all drug arrests in the United States.

"These numbers belie the myth that police do not target and arrest minor cannabis offenders," said NORML Executive Director Allen St. Pierre, who noted that at current rates, a cannabis consumer is arrested every 37 seconds in America. "This effort is a tremendous waste of criminal justice resources that diverts law enforcement personnel away from focusing on serious and violent crime, including the war on terrorism."

Of those charged with marijuana violations, approximately 89 percent, 775,138 Americans were charged with possession only. The remaining 97,583 individuals were charged with "sale/manufacture," a category that includes all cultivation offenses, even those where the marijuana was being grown for personal or medical use. Nearly three in four of those arrested are under age 30.

"Present policies have done little if anything to decrease marijuana's availability or dissuade youth from trying it," St. Pierre said, noting young people in the U.S. now frequently report that they have easier access to pot than alcohol or tobacco.

"Two other major points standout from today’s record marijuana arrests: Overall, there has been a dramatic 195 percent increase in marijuana arrests in the last 15 years -- yet the public's access to pot remains largely unfettered and the self-reported use of cannabis remains largely unchanged. Second, America’s Midwest is decidedly the hotbed for cannabis arrests with over 60 percent of all cannabis-related arrests. The region of America with the least amount of cannabis arrests is the West with 29 percent. This latter result is arguably a testament to the passage of various state and local decriminalization efforts over the past several years."

"Of further note, this year the Midwest saw a 13.3% increase in cannabis sales/cultivation-related arrests, while the West saw a 14% increase in possession-related cannabis arrests."

The total number of marijuana arrests in the U.S. for 2007 far exceeded the total number of arrests in the U.S. for all violent crimes combined, including murder, manslaughter, forcible rape, robbery and aggravated assault.

Annual marijuana arrests have nearly tripled since the early 1990s.

"Arresting hundreds of thousands of Americans who smoke marijuana responsibly needlessly destroys the lives of otherwise law abiding citizens," St. Pierre said, adding that nearly 9 million Americans have been arrested on marijuana charges in the past ten years. During this same time, arrests for cocaine and heroin have declined sharply, implying that increased enforcement of marijuana laws is being achieved at the expense of enforcing laws against the possession and trafficking of more dangerous drugs.In fact, October 10, 2008 will mark the arrest of the 20 millionth cannabis consumer arrested under cannabis prohibition, circa 1937.

St. Pierre concluded: "Enforcing marijuana prohibition costs taxpayers between $10 billion and $12 billion annually and has led to the arrest of nearly 20 million Americans. Nevertheless, nearly 100 million Americans acknowledge having used marijuana during their lives. It makes no sense to continue to treat nearly half of all Americans as criminals for their use of a substance that poses far fewer health risks than alcohol or tobacco. A better and more sensible solution would be to tax and regulate cannabis in a manner similar to alcohol and tobacco."

[lordofduct]

pot is like a fine wine. I would probably orgasm all over myself if i got a judges pass and airfare to the Cannibus Cup. i dont understand why people would want to ruin it with tobbacco, and i have never heard of anybody soaking pot in draino that sounds like bs. i have heard of people dipping cigs or pot in famaldahyde(sp), which i don't understand either(say it makes them trip), but draino wtf?

It's very common. Marijuana smoking habits vary all over the world.

Wet - marijuana blunt soaked in fermaldihide - big in the north east. First time I saw it was in Philly
Codowax - marijuana joint or blunt soaked in liquid codeine and dried - first time I saw it was in cities surrounding Seattle
Fitty - marijuana and tobacco - I see this a lot in the 'ghetto' where weed tends to be schwag
Draino... don't know the slang word, but I've seen it done. It's similar to Wet - Big in the mid-west of America
WuBlunt / Chalk / Buttersplif - cocaine/crack cocaine mixed with marijuana - come on, who hasn't heard of this?
Partyblunt - marijuana with PCP
Methblunt / Wublunt - crystal meth and marijuana
Red Crystal / Ruby - Opium and marijuana
Oil'd - Hashish oil and marijuana
RAID - insecticide spayed on marijuana - this was done a lot here in Florida to increase the high of shitty weed. Mostly done by the dealer with out informing the buyer

there are more, keep in mind slang terms vary from area to area, and user to user. I've heard all of these called all kinds of things.

It's similar to any name for a drug. For instance here in Florida good cocaine is referred to as "fishscale" or "Gator", but I haven't hear that anywhere else in the nation. Elsewhere I've heard things like: glitter, pure, punk, hard, lowcut, bitter, butter, spunk... etc

or weed (including names of different qualities and quantities): dope, herb, bud, ghanja, wreefer, schwag, skunk, turkey, maryjane, krypto, hydro, mids, mods, lows, highs, nick, nickworth, fingerPopper, lid, finger, dirty, dirt, oscar, o-bot, o-bag... the list is enormous.

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pot is like a fine wine. I would probably orgasm all over myself if i got a judges pass and airfare to the Cannibus Cup. i dont understand why people would want to ruin it with tobbacco, and i have never heard of anybody soaking pot in draino that sounds like bs. i have heard of people dipping cigs or pot in famaldahyde(sp), which i don't understand either(say it makes them trip), but draino wtf?

It's very common. Marijuana smoking habits vary all over the world.

Wet - marijuana blunt soaked in fermaldihide - big in the north east. First time I saw it was in Philly
Codowax - marijuana joint or blunt soaked in liquid codeine and dried - first time I saw it was in cities surrounding Seattle
Fitty - marijuana and tobacco - I see this a lot in the 'ghetto' where weed tends to be schwag
Draino... don't know the slang word, but I've seen it done. It's similar to Wet - Big in the mid-west of America
WuBlunt / Chalk / Buttersplif - cocaine/crack cocaine mixed with marijuana - come on, who hasn't heard of this?
Partyblunt - marijuana with PCP
Methblunt / Wublunt - crystal meth and marijuana
Red Crystal / Ruby - Opium and marijuana
Oil'd - Hashish oil and marijuana
RAID - insecticide spayed on marijuana - this was done a lot here in Florida to increase the high of shitty weed. Mostly done by the dealer with out informing the buyer

there are more, keep in mind slang terms vary from area to area, and user to user. I've heard all of these called all kinds of things.

It's similar to any name for a drug. For instance here in Florida good cocaine is referred to as "fishscale" or "Gator", but I haven't hear that anywhere else in the nation. Elsewhere I've heard things like: glitter, pure, punk, hard, lowcut, bitter, butter, spunk... etc

or weed (including names of different qualities and quantities): dope, herb, bud, ghanja, wreefer, schwag, skunk, turkey, maryjane, krypto, hydro, mids, mods, lows, highs, nick, nickworth, fingerPopper, lid, finger, dirty, dirt, oscar, o-bot, o-bag... the list is enormous.

I live in the midwest. i guess draino isn't that popular here. but yeah the slang varies. when i lived in TN the called the mix with famaldahyde a wiki stick, mix w/ coke was a christmas tree. I live in MO now. good weed is usually called KB, nugz, chronic, fire, midi or mid grade (for weed between commercial and the stuff you see in high times). and then the different varieties of the high grade. white rhino, blueberry, and a bunch of other strains.

[Funk, E]

I live in Vermont. We have excellent marijuana, and it is usually grown within walking distance of where you bought it.

Anyway: nucking futs, it'd do you some good to do some research before typing. Marijuana actually has to burn at a HIGHER temperature than tobacco to even do anything to the smoker. And it's not addictive, either, unless you're an idiot and mix it with something that is.