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Arbitern1 wrote:Psp and the vita both have had allot of problems with games. Aside from the oodles of RPGs that came out later in the psps lifespan I would have called it a waste of money. Sony just needs to give up. Forfeit the market to Nintendo. The market is over saturated for handheld devices. Nintendo has a much stronger line up with games with the 3DS and has really taken off.


I don't understand the logic of "you won't ever be Nintendo, so don't try." The PSP has sold over 70 million units. Granted, that's half of what the DS sold, but it is closing in on the number of units the GBA (all models) sold. Would you say the GBA was a "waste of money"? It is possible to be profitable and worthwhile and not be #1. And the DS or 3DS having a "stronger lineup" than the PSP or Vita? That's debatable...FWIW Metacritic disagrees on the most recent handhelds. The 3DS has 22 games averaging higher than an 80 on the site while the Vita, which came out about a year later, already has 18 ranked higher than 80. I realize Metacritic isn't the end-all be-all of evaluating games, but it is a reasonable way to get a snapshot of the strength of a system's library. And the numbers there suggest that your claim of a "much stronger lineup" for the 3DS is bullshit.


This console needs a price drop or it will sink. I'll buy it in the 99$ bargain bins 3 years from now when it's accumulated more than 10 great exclusives.


There's nothing wrong with being a late adopter. You can of course pick it up when it gets a price drop. All systems eventually get one anyway, but I bet it will be 4-5 years before you find it approaching $100 in a bargain bin or anywhere else. I've already demonstrated it has more than 10 "great" games (about half of that 18 I mentioned above are system exclusives), so I don't really see "no good games" as a legitimate reason to wait.

Fuck Sony. No company should be able to fuck stuff up as badly as the vita release/ps3 release and come back ok. I just don't understand it. I guess that's what deep pockets allow you to do.


Now we get to the heart of it. I probably shouldn't have wasted my time responding to you as you are clearly arguing based on your own bizzare and unfounded interpretation of Sony's PS business model. Sony's gaming division has continued to be profitable for decades by pretty much doing the same things they are doing now. Every time they release new hardware people complain it is too pricey and not well positioned. In the long run - which is the game they play - they always have had the last laugh. That's not "fucking stuff up badly," it's repeating a proven model. There's a lot of reason already to think that the Vita will be another example of this...
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8bit wrote:
TheRev wrote:I'm sort of just pulling it all out of my ass now.


Always a good starting point for long winded posts that you admit you are trying to convince people with... :roll:


FWIW, there's a lot of that going on around here lately so maybe that's why he thinks it is ok.
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What's this about 98 games in the first year of the PSV?
take out games that are ports or can be bought elsewhere...Much smaller list.

8bit wrote:
TheRev wrote:I'm sort of just pulling it all out of my ass now.


Always a good starting point for long winded posts that you admit you are trying to convince people with... :roll:


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Confuse the opponent until eventually they agree with you just to shut you up.

It's how we won the cold war.
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TheRev wrote:The Mind games...I am a Master.
Confuse the opponent until eventually they agree with you just to shut you up.

It's how we won the cold war.


Good luck with that. May I ask how old you are?
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8bit wrote:
TheRev wrote:The Mind games...I am a Master.
Confuse the opponent until eventually they agree with you just to shut you up.

It's how we won the cold war.


Good luck with that. May I ask how old you are?


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I don't take anything seriously...if you haven't figured that out.
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TheRev wrote:What's this about 98 games in the first year of the PSV?
take out games that are ports or can be bought elsewhere...Much smaller list.


Ok...
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A-men
Army Corps of Hell
Asphalt: Injection
Assassin's Creed III: Liberation
Call of Duty: Black Ops: Declassified
Chronovolt
DJMax Technika Tune
Dokuro
Dynasty Warriors Next
Escape Plan
Gravity Rush
Lets Try Bass Fishing: Fish On
Little Deviants
LittleBigPlanet PS Vita
Lumines Electronic Symphony
Malicious Rebirth
ModNation Racers: Road Trip
New Little King’s Story*
Ninja Gaiden Sigma Plus*
Orgarhythm
Persona 4: Golden*
Ragnarok Odyssey
Reality Fighters
Resistance: Burning Skies
Ridge Racer
Shinobido 2: Tales of the Ninja
Silent Hill: Book of Memories
Smart As
Spy Hunter
StarDrone Extreme
Sumioni: Demon Arts
Sunflowers
Super Monkey Ball: Banana Splitz
Super Stardust Delta
Surge Concerto: Ciel Nosurge
Tales from Space: Mutant Blobs Attack
Tales of Innocence R*
The Legend of Heroes: Zero no Kiseki Evolution*
Touch My Katamari
Treasures of Montezuma: Blitz
Uncharted: Golden Abyss
Unit 13
Wipeout 2048
Ys: Foliage Ocean in Celceta
Zero Escape: Virtue's Last Reward

* = significantly enhanced remake


That's still approaching 50 games in its first year. Not sure why you want to discount games that can be played elsewhere, though. I enjoy playing stuff like Sound Shapes, Retro City Rampage, BlazBlu, Pinball Arcade, etc. much more on the Vita than I do on the console...
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TheRev wrote:
8bit wrote:Good luck with that. May I ask how old you are?


31

I don't take anything seriously...if you haven't figured that out.


Yeah I can tell because I was thinking you were 14-17 years old. No offense, just the impression i've been getting...

But in your defense, games are meant to be fun and discussions about them shouldn't be taken too seriously.
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8bit wrote:
TheRev wrote:
8bit wrote:Good luck with that. May I ask how old you are?


31

I don't take anything seriously...if you haven't figured that out.


Yeah I can tell because I was thinking you were 14-17 years old. No offense, just the impression i've been getting...

But in your defense, games are meant to be fun and discussions about them shouldn't be taken too seriously.


All that matters is that my ramblings amused you. If they did I've done my job.
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dsheinem wrote:
Arbitern1 wrote:Fuck Sony. No company should be able to fuck stuff up as badly as the vita release/ps3 release and come back ok. I just don't understand it. I guess that's what deep pockets allow you to do.


Now we get to the heart of it. I probably shouldn't have wasted my time responding to you as you are clearly arguing based on your own bizzare and unfounded interpretation of Sony's PS business model. Sony's gaming division has continued to be profitable for decades by pretty much doing the same things they are doing now. Every time they release new hardware people complain it is too pricey and not well positioned. In the long run - which is the game they play - they always have had the last laugh. That's not "fucking stuff up badly," it's repeating a proven model. There's a lot of reason already to think that the Vita will be another example of this...


Arbitern1 wrote:For the first 2 years I owned my psp, I only owned some shitty atv game.

This wasn't your sign Dave? Even if the guy got the PSP at release, there were plenty of decent titles that could have kept him entertained. Untold Legends, Ridge Racer, Dynasty Warriors, Metal Gear Acid, and Lumines were all quite entertaining and worth playing when I got my PSP about 5 months after release. Seems like a lack of effort on Arbitern's behalf to get involved with the system is the problem here, not a lack of effort on Sony releasing quality games, because they clearly exist.

This thread is making my head hurt. Are we posting to hearing our own voices, or do we actually have something to contribute to the discussion?
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Yes because we all now how wildly great the first three years of the ps3 were. They screwed that up to the point where they should have gone under. It was a commendable turn around I will say that. After all I'm not paying 40$ for little big planet on the vita when I have a ps3 with both little big planet games. I'm not paying 250$ to play a handheld new version of"insert Sony IP here". Can't help it that when I look at metacritic and the top 10 best rated games for the console are ports or can be had on other consoles. Hence the whome reason i will not get one. Shove a broom up your condescending ass.
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