Hey, Fujii Mutsuhiro of Sega of Japan! Your'e scum!

[Purkeynator]

Maybe you could re-upload your videos under different names that don't set off the Sega police alarm. Shinning Farce Tre or Shinning the Holy Arc? When considering copyright law always remember the golden rule. He who has the gold makes the rules.
This reminds me of this Simpsons episode
Skip to the 10 second mark.

[dsheinem]

If were talking 'good' Sega made games since after the Dreamcast days I will say that Vitua Fighter 5 was awesome. A really solid worthwhile addition to the Vitua Fighter series. The bad really does out weigh the good unfortunately. Journey into Dreams anyone?

Gonna call bullshit on this one. In the decade since DC games stopped being made, Sega has had a better good/bad ratio than people give them credit for. Metacritic, which tracks most games released since 2002 or so, agrees, giving Sega (as a publisher) 246 positive to 47 negative and 311 mixed (http://www.metacritic.com/company/sega). Granted, Metacritic is not an end-all be-all measure, but it isn't a horrible one for something like this. Looking at that list, I can easily find 5-10 games made and/or published by Sega that I have enjoyed every year since the DC ended.

I think what people get upset about is how they have sometimes fucked up or ignored old IPs (e.g. the Golden Axe reboot, many many bad Sonic games until about 2009 or so, no new Shenmue, etc.). But really, those are the exceptions.

Since the DC ended we have had very good to excellent Sonic, Panzer Dragoon, Phantasy Star, Virtua Fighter, Daytona, After Burner, House of the Dead, Samba de Amigo, Shining, Out Run, 2K, Jet Radio, Sega GT, Sega Rally, Shinobi, Virtua Tennis, and Space Channel games. They've also done a tremendous job of porting old Genesis, SMS, and DC games to both disc and online services for newer consoles.

In addition - and this is something their old competitor Nintendo can't claim - Sega has introduced many great NEW IPs in the past decade. Super Monkey Ball, Valkyria Chronicles, Yakuza, Initial D, Condemned, Infinite Space, Otogi, Bayonetta, The Conduit, Binary Domain, Vanquish, Crush, The Cave, and more I am forgetting.

So yeah, don't look at the Were-hog or an occasional lame sequel and claim that the company has more bad games than good since the end of the DC. Because it is bullshit.

[noiseredux]

Really good post, dsh. And I agree big time. I often hear folks say things like "I avoided that game because it says 'Sega' on the cover." Yet I've found that with this gen and last, I've pretty much done the opposite -- picked up many games because of that Sega logo and been happily surprised far more often than disappointed.

I think what people get upset about is how they have sometimes fucked up or ignored old IPs (e.g. the Golden Axe reboot, many many bad Sonic games until about 2009 or so, no new Shenmue, etc.). But really, those are the exceptions.

^and THIS. It seems to me that somewhere down the road the words 'Sonic' and 'Sega' became synonymous in some peoples' minds. This means that a string of bad Sonic games instantly made people think that there was a flood of terrible Sega games.

[Jmustang1968]

Wait wait dave. They have not made very good to excellent shining games. Atleast not localized.

I also don't care for what they did to phantasy star, though I know they are popular.

And super monkey ball needs to go away forever, I hate that series. Haha.

But I can more or less get on board with the rest of what you said.

[dsheinem]

Wait wait dave. They have not made very good to excellent shining games. Atleast not localized.

Yeah, I know there have been some solid un-localized ones. Should we not count those?

[EvilRyu2099]

I think people tend to mix up Sega and Sonic team.. The latter being a division of the former... Sonic Team for the most part has made some very bad IPs after DC until the last two years...

[Jmustang1968]

Wait wait dave. They have not made very good to excellent shining games. Atleast not localized.

Yeah, I know there have been some solid un-localized ones. Should we not count those?

I don't count unlocalized rpgs no. The percentage who can actually play and read japanese is negligible.

[dsheinem]

Wait wait dave. They have not made very good to excellent shining games. Atleast not localized.

Yeah, I know there have been some solid un-localized ones. Should we not count those?

I don't count unlocalized rpgs no. The percentage who can actually play and read japanese is negligible.

Well even if we remove Shining from that list for this caveat, it is still a list of 15+ IPs that were from the DC era or earlier that have had good entries in the years since.

And you suck for not liking Monkey Ball.

[Jmustang1968]

I don't count unlocalized rpgs no. The percentage who can actually play and read japanese is negligible.

Well even if we remove Shining from that list for this caveat, it is still a list of 15+ IPs that were from the DC era or earlier that have had good entries in the years since.

And you suck for not liking Monkey Ball.

I can usually fimd redeeming qualities or enjoyment from most any game. And I despised my time playing monkey ball.

The premise of it is stupid to begin with, and then add crappy mini games of monkeys inside of balls.

[noiseredux]

monkey billiards is better than the actual game proper!