What games offer up the cheapest deaths?

[Michi]

I don't understand why so many folks have fond memories of that game!

Some people like a challenge. But others are just masochists.

I don't really remember it being that hard and I suck at games. haha I am kind of proud of the fact that it's one of the few RPGs I've actually finished, seeing as I'm not a big fan of them but I liked that one for whatever reason.

I was speaking more in general, but you're right. I don't feel FF games are necessarily that hard. Of course, I've only beaten IV, so I may be speaking out of turn

[Gamerforlife]

Just think of pretty much any game in history that is notorious for its difficulty and you'll find all the cheap deaths you could ever ask for. More often than not calling a game really hard is really just a nice way of saying, "it's full of cheap bullshit"

There's a reason I don't really gravitate towards hard games much these days. I'm sort of tired of getting screwed by dick game designers.

[Erik_Twice]

I was referring to being constant knocked back when you get hit by enemies only to fall into the nearest hole/pit and die.

I've never though that was cheap, mainly because if you are knocked back and die, it's because of a very predictable enemy pattern, you are not killed by skeletons throwing bones but by medusa heads or any other hazard. I think that if you are being knocked back, it's because you did something pretty wrong, so the game kills you. Fits the theme, if you ask me.

I've never felt like Metal Slug is especially cheap, difficult as it may be. But anyone who can beat MS3 on oXbox is a machine. Even though you can start at any level you've reached, the final stage is just BRUTAL and is about as long as all the other stages combined.

Don't many MS have off-screen firing at the end? I've seen a couple and you have to memorize the sequence or you die.

[elmagicochrisg]

SNES The Addams Family

[KillerJuan77]

I've been playing Resident Evil 4 on the PS2 for a little while and JESUS.CHRIST. Some of the absolute cheapest and most annoying ways to die I've seen in a game. Most involve quick-time events like pushing L1+R1 to jump onto a ledge or avoid a falling object, but they happen so quickly and without warning that it's all but impossible to avoid dying the first time through. This is extremely annoying and pointless to me, as I don't think it adds anything but frustration to the game, and after you've died once, it's easy to avoid the next time around.

Aside from the obvious "cheap death" games like Castlevania and Ninja Gaiden on the NES, what other games go out of their way to piss you off in stupid ways?

I finished RE4 yesterday with 36 deaths and around 30 were because of the QTE'S . I still love the game though.

The worst one is either Castlevania III and Ghosts N' Goblins.

[Luke]

I hate the "leap of faith" in any game, even great games. The Super Star Wars series has a few of those.

In the amazon level of Duck Tales, right before Launchpad McQuack lends you a line, there is a bee that I swear can not be dodged. Sucker gets me every time.

There are a few places in Blaster Master where SOPHIA can get stuck, and it is game over. There are also times that if you leave the tank, it's impossible to get back to it.

And although it's not "death" if you are up 21 points in the 4th quarter and playing the cpu in Blitz (from the N64 to the oxbox), you'll lose.

[AppleQueso]

I don't think Castlevania is cheap either. The game is built around punishing you for trying to just blaze through it. You gotta be ready for whatever happens, take your time, think ahead, etc.

Ninja Gaiden? Eh maybe.

Ghosts N Goblins? Cheap as fuck, but I love it anyway.

[Jrecee]

Super star wars 2 and 3. God I wanted those to be good, but they're not. The first is average.

[Damm64]

Does S.T.A.L.K.E.R can be considered a cheap game or a really hard one? I died like 7 times in a staircase because my enemies can shoot me in the head with NO problem.

[Onikage]

I don't think those RE4 QTE's are that cheap, from what I remember you can usually predict when they're going to show up, like when those knight armors attack you, it's pretty obvious that something like that is going to happen.