Have you ever liked the (art/music/story) but not the game?

[Opa Opa]

Final Fantasy VIII. Love the art direction and the music. Hate the story and the broken gameplay.

[Menegrothx]

BIOSHOCK is a visual feast, but it sometimes feels like a point and click adventure

Care to elaborate?

[Luke]

I thought I was pretty succinct.

Even with a Big Daddy gunning down on me, I felt no urgency. I found it very "do this, do that point here, click here, shoot here". The environment is dope, no doubt about that, but at times the game was simply boring.

[dsheinem]

Ico

[Luke]

Ico

I completely understand this although I don't agree. I'm sure you're not alone.

[Menegrothx]

Even with a Big Daddy gunning down on me, I felt no urgency. I found it very "do this, do that point here, click here, shoot here". The environment is dope, no doubt about that, but at times the game was simply boring.

The game is too easy, that's for sure. Try System Shock 2. Guns break and you need to repair and do mainteneance to them, there's less ammo and health items lying around, different enemies require you to use different tactics, one character can not use all weapons, spells etc at the same time so you have to specialize to heavy weapons if you want to use a bazooka or to psionics if you want to use hypnotize spell and so on, turret and security camera hacking is done in real time so if a monster catches you while you're hacking it will attack you (in Bioshock the game stops while you're hacking).
The game is just a lot more intense than Bioshock. It looks a lot worse, but the plot is better (well, bioshock recycles alot of things from the plot of system shock) and the athmosphere is better/scarier/creepier. Although Bioshock did a fine job in the athmosphere department too if you ask me, the enemies just didn't feel menacing at all because of the lack of RPG elements and the player being too powerful from the beginning.

I still dont quite get how you can feel that playing a game like Bioshock can feel like playing a game like Monkey Island

[harper]

Xenosaga.

Funny you should mention it. I just popped Final Fantasy VII into my Playstation earlier (for the first time ever) and I was literally thinking "the music is pretty awesome but I can't see myself even making a dent in this game". Not that I dislike it (I didn't play enough of it to really form an opinion) but I prefer the look and feel of 2D sprite based RPGs and geez the game is 3 discs long. haha I dunno, I might try to get into it but I just don't see it happening.

FFVII isn't any longer than any of the SNES games. Don't let the 3 discs fool you, all that space is literally taken up by FMVs.

That's good to know but it doesn't change my outlook. haha

[D.D.D.]

Ico

What about Ico do you like?

[CRTGAMER]

PC EF2000
I "flew" the earlier Flight Sim TFX and loved the music. Even though the game is VGA, it was really put together well. The way the view mode would lock on a target and the music was so right for the genre. I hoped that the followup EF2000 would retain at least similar music, but did not. Even the view control feature too a dive.

[dreamcast4ever83]

Xenosaga.

What about Xenosaga did you like? If music, any youtube/music clips in particular?

I guess the story/characters and all that. Had a pretty cool universe. Definitely very sci-fi 'anime' feeling, but it worked really well so I don't have any complaints in that department. I liked that Shion was a very different kind of protagonist for a JRPG. Hell I even liked the voice acting, it was very solid dub work.

Music was pretty well done too, but there wasn't very much of it.

The big problem was that there was so much story that you literally were watching the game's cutscenes more often than you were actually playing the game. Seriously, it actually puts Metal Gear Solid 4 to shame in some areas.

Gameplay itself was fairly boring too, just walk around one of many various labyrinths for a while and fight baddies. The whole 'boost' system was kinda interesting, but the battles ended up feeling like a slower, clunkier, less polished version of the battle system from Final Fantasy X. It just wasn't very fun.

Agreed. I really could not get into these game's infact they drovr me bonkers. There were endless cut scenes and most of them were about nothing important or special at all and honestly just plain boreing