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KoLAddict wrote:Why's that?
Mainly because it's pretty difficult to get PAL games/consoles running in the US.

And I could be wrong, but I think a PAL Terranigma is much harder to find and considerably more expensive than a Japanese Tenchi Sōzō.

Be aware that most "Terranigma" carts on ebay are reproduction carts that will run on North American systems, not the authentic PAL version.
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Do the Soul Blazer/Illusion of Gaia/Terranigma games have a decent story? I've only ever played a little Illusion of Gaia.

I need to look into the Hz thing with UK games to see what I need to do to get them working properly on a US system. I'm ok with getting a game in Japanese if it's either one I've played to death and the English version is over priced (like my copy of Chrono Trigger which is Japanese) or the story sucks and I don't need to follow it. Otherwise I try to only buy Japanese games if they never were released in English (or if the English version sucks).

Also, thanks, I didn't know that was the name of Terranigma in Japanese, I'll need to copy that down for future reference.
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BoneSnapDeez wrote:Yup. Popful Mail is on the PC98, PC Engine CD, Super Famicom, and Sega CD. The Sega CD is the best version, and the only one available in English. Unfortunately, that Sega CD version is also prohibitively expensive (at least for me), I'll probably just buy the Super Famicom version eventually.
The English port of Popful Mail for the Sega CD was handled by Working Designs. They were both a blessing and a curse: they brought over some excellent games that we would not have had in English otherwise (Ys, Lunar, etc), but they were very fond of tweaking the difficulty of their games (Popful Mail, Silhouette Mirage, etc). The Mega CD version of Popful Mail is not as frustrating as the Sega CD version.

The only Popful Mail games that were actually programmed by Falcom were the PC98 and the Super Famicom. At least, as far as I know. I'm too lazy to look it up on Wikipedia, so somebody correct me if I am wrong. Anyhow, I am familiar with the PCE, Sega/Mega CD, and SFC versions. I have a review of the SFC version on my SFC site. I personally don't care to collect the same game on multiple platforms, but since Popful Mail is a unique game on each console, I don't mind owning different ones. The SFC version is inexpensive (you can buy it at Super Potato in Akihabara for less than 1,000 yen) and the PC Engine version isn't bad, either. The Mega CD version is a little more, but not nearly as pricey as the domestic Sega CD version. And I'm only talking about box and manual games, not game-only purchases.

Anyhow, Popful Mail barely skirts the edge of the RPG classification, It's just like Ys 3, and is more of a platformer than an RPG (IMHO).
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KoLAddict wrote:Also, does anyone know about playing imports on the N64? I haven't really looked into it, not sure what I'll need to do to make it happen.
I've never been interested in owning an N64, but from what I understand, it's just like modding a SNES to play imports.

OK, so to talk about the main topic of RPGs on these systems, I'm sure there must be lists somewhere. A good YouTube channel to check out is Vysethedetermined2, and he showcases tons of import games I've never played before. On my channel, stevethefishdotnet, last year I did a "100 PC Engine Games in 10 minutes" video that has a few import-only RPGs on there. I also have two "100 Super Famicom games in 10 minutes" videos that feature several RPGs (Treasure of the Ruldras, Treasure Hunter G, Xak, etc). I was working on a third video and was 40% done until a half a year ago. Now my computer has crapped out and I need to replace everything but the hard drives. I sure hope the hard drives are still intact.
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Awesome thanks for the YouTube recommendations.

I really hope your Hard Drives aren't toast as well, data loss always sucks.

What did you think of Treasure of the Rudras and Treasure Hunter G? Both are games that I have heard of (which is pretty rare for the import scene from me, since I never really researched it more thoroughly until recently), but never really read any decent reviews on the mechanics. I vaguely remember trying one of them before that had either a turn-based strategy combat or real-time combat, I don't remember. I just remember combat wasn't traditional JRPG.
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Hi KoL,
Treasure of the Ruldras is supposed to be the best Squaresoft RPG that never made it over here. At least that what I have heard. I haven't spent much time on it, myself. Treasure Hunter G is a Squaresoft game made by Sting, the company that made Riviera and Yggdra Union on the GBA, Knights in the Nightmare on the DS, and now the new Gungnir for the PSP which I really want to get. Anyhow, Treasure Hunter G is almost like a strategy game, moving about on a grid and striking at adjacent square sections.

Speaking of strategy games (SRPGs), there are a LOT of these as well, but maybe those belong in their own thread topic.

Yesterday I picked up a stack of 5 SFC games for only 380 yen. They were shrink-wrapped together and sold as-is because perhaps they could not get them to work when they tested them. I cleaned them with alcohol last night and if that doesn't work, I'll use an emory board to clean the contacts. That usually brings the games to life. (I wish I knew about that 11 years ago when I had a Zenki game with box and manual, but the game didn't work. I think I threw it out. At the time, I wasn't familiar with Zenki. So foolish...) Anyhow, all I knew is that the pack of cartridges contained Battle Pinball and Dragon Quest VI. The other three games, it turns out, were Street Fighter II and Elfaria 1 and 2. The last two are also Japan-only RPGs, but I haven't played them yet (I either need to get my computer working or buy a TV before I can use my SNES again).

The thing about my hard drive is that my friend suggested formatting it as a dynamic hard drive so that I could install Fedora on it and create a dual-boot Windows/Linux system. However, that never happened. Using a SATA to USB converter, I was able to view the contents of the main hard drive, but the one with the special formatting (the one with ALL of my data) is the dynamic one. I'm sure everything is fine, but I must boot a system with the main hard drive's OS in order to view its contents. Grr. So until then, I can't make any more game-related videos with the capture card.

GD Leen (Gadurin) is another Japan-only RPG. I only played a bit of it, and it seems similar to the premise of Star Ocean 1&2 (a science-fictiony soldier winds up on a backwater planet, etc). His starship crashes on a planet and befriends the locals and goes on an adventure. Combat looks similar to Dragon Quest rather than Final Fantasy, and your character can attack with a space rifle while others use swords and such. The Wikipedia article for the game is here. I thought I remembered an anime by the name of GD Leen, and I was right! I've never looked at this Wiki article before.

I think I'll go back to that shop I was at yesterday sometime soon. It's called Kanteidan, located in Shizoka City, and it is freaking awesome. I live in Fuji City, and the only time I ever find any SFC games, it's always boring-ass dime-a-dozen games like pachinko, horse racing, soccer, and the occasional mahjong game. Kanteidan has a solid selection of retro games. They were a bit weak on the Megadrive selection, but they had tons of PCE, Saturn, DC, FC, and SFC games. I also bought Earth Light 2 and Asameshi Mae Nyanko there, boxed, for REAL LOW CHEAP.

PS: Some asshat in India stole my second SFC video, 100 Super Famicom games in 10 minutes part 2 and put it up on his own YT channel. If anyone ever comes across that one (no description available, only negative comments etc), be sure to thumb that video down. Apparently all of that guy's videos are stolen from other channels, so it's a mix of video games and his bad taste in music. YouTube won't do a thing about it, either. Makes me mad.
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Sorry to hear that, I'll definitely do that if I find it.


Yeah Elfaria is decent. I have the first one now and the second one should be coming soon. Traditional JRPG from what little I've played of it so far, I don't know Japanese at all so no idea what's going on, but it looks pretty.

I hadn't heard much of GD Leen before (just knew it was an RPG). Thanks for the Wiki link, that's really got me wanting to play that as well.
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I bought a replacement motherboard, CPU, RAM, and DVD-RW drive yesterday and brought my computer back to life! All of my data on the dynamic-formatted drives is now safe and accessible again. Now that I have access to my capture device again (it didn't seem to work well with my Windows7 laptop), I will be able to plug in my consoles and at least be able to play them on my computer.

I'll check out the Elfaria games soon.
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Awesome grats on getting your computer up and running again.

I'm going to be booting up Mystic Ark tomorrow when I get a chance. I loved 7th Saga, so really looking forward to playing it's sequel.

Also now that I know that both Albert Odyssey games on Super Famicom are wholly different from the Saturn version, I want to pick those up as well.
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KoLAddict wrote:Why's that?


Also, does anyone know about playing imports on the N64? I haven't really looked into it, not sure what I'll need to do to make it happen.
All Japanese and American electronics run at 60hz. Terranigma out of Europe is set up to run at 50hz, so you would need some special form of Passport tech or some such to keep it running.

On N64, there are nubs inside the body that stop Japanese games from going into american systems. These would need to be grinded off. OR, you could just take off the dust cover, which these nubs are connected too. There is also passport tech you can buy, but I have no experience with that.
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Sweet thanks, sounds similar to the SNES as far as needing to remove the tabs. Might look into seeing if it's able to be done via Gameshark as well for the N64.
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