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:evil: ok so i have heard alot of stuff regarding playing panzer dragoon saga with the action replay and i have a few thing i want to say and also see if anyone has other ideas. First off you can use both a gameshark or action replay its the same thing memory,codes and region unlock its also cheaper but can't play certain 4mb games and now main point I bought panzer dragoon saga pal on ebay for 140.00 buck and once i got it and went to play it i had issues. Now will of the achints sight states that you can play it with an action replay and special code. It will say remove cartridge everytime but with a gameshark code it will play they said jap to american or american to jap or pal to jap ,jap to pal all of them and then says the codes been tested and works great it also say they assume the PAL version to natc-u american would work fine....well I tried it and the codes do not work period i tried action replay 4-1 and gameshark it say remove cartridge no matter what! It will start to load and say team andromina then cut out with code which i dont get it I was very sad to see this after i have been waiting and saveing money for game mind you im still greatful i own it but kinda upset me. I wounder if anyone knows a special code for the pal to natc-u version to work? there has got to be one if they work on all other variations. Now on a good note i figured out that if you load the game wait for the sega logo to pop up as soon as it goes black right the second the next screen starts and you pull out the action replay it will boot and work perfectly which was great i was very happy basicly it bypassed the region lock and before it could notice the action replay i pulled it out . you half to be quick but it work great :) and alos theres no problem with the screen people say 50-60hz messes up with black bars but that has not happened to me at all infact i dont think panzer dragoon saga is pal optimized. anyways back to the game working ...now i can play but i know i shouldn't do this to much cause pulling out the cartridge is not good for the system at all. but i just wanted people to know that if you have or buy the pal game and use it on natc-u system it wont work but if you do the trick i listed above it will work perfectly no 50-60hz switch needed hope this helps a bit cause i did not read anything that clairafied this and the will of the acients sight does not tell you this......now if anyone knows a better way other then a region modd please let me know i think theres got to be a code or something to work this better i was actually woundering if a region st key cart would work? without saying remove cartridge? since panzer dragoons seems not to like action replay does anyone know thank you sorry for the way long post and bad grammer
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Dude, how about some paragraphs? makes it much easier to read.

Anyway, I don't think the Action Replay will actually change the consoles output to 50hz for a pal game, only fool the game into thinking its running on the correct console. So if you decide to do a region mode, you may end up with a rolling image if your TV can't cope with a PAL signal.

I take it that PSG has some lock out code if it detects an Action Replay? I never knew any games did this.

Well, I hope you find a way to play this great game without destroying your cart slot :)
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I'm not sure if you're using an NTSC US model or one of those other versions, but I would like to impart a few things on you. There were a few ProAction Replays or similar that were Code breakers, memory card, and 4 MEG RAM carts all in one. Not only could it do all those things, it was also allowed one to play import games. Now, If you can't find one (or thats not the problem) and you have a sufficient level of electronics knowledge, you can modify your system to be region free. Take a look at this page: http://www.gamesx.com/wiki/doku.php?id= ... ega_saturn
it should make sense. If you're skilled you can install switches to make it all reversible. Good luck.
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I'm fairly sure that Panzer Dragoon Saga is one of the toughest games Saturn games to get around the region-locking.

I'd say the easiest solution might be to just put your copy on eBay and then buy a North American copy.
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Ok sorry for the annoying grammar not my strong point. Anyways here's the gig; I can sell my Pal PDS and buy a north american one but its a annoying to wait and now that i have it i don't wanna risk not having one it took blood tears and everything to get this game.

Also i like the artwork on the back of the PAL pds its very unique and cool,so here my question.....To clarify I have an /american sega saturn and am trying to play a PAL PDS. now you can play the pal version on a jap system and vice versa in fact. You can do every other variation but for some dumb reason you can't with the PAL to american the action replay code wont work on that variation but on every other my life sucks!! lol But I'm curious since I don't really want to do a region mod, If i use a st key card instead of a action replay 4-1 will that work? Cause pds does not like the action replay but the st key import only card should work right? Has anyone tried this ? If so please let me know if not i guess my only other choice is to add mod chip and burn the game and play it which i plan to do in the future but right now these are my only options.

Also, God its annoying how the greatest game ever has annoying issues with action replay... but I know there's a solution there always is with saturn stuff so, help me please. I'm gonna buy a st key card,but don't wanna waste the money if it wont work on this game since its the only reason i'm buying it.
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Something with that series, lol. My Japanese copy of Panzer Dragoon, using the GameShark, won't work either. The easiest solution was to just buy a U.S. copy. I guess that's not as feasible of an option in this case. It's might be remotely possible to trade your Japanese copy to a fan for a U.S. copy.
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BurningDoom wrote:Something with that series, lol. My Japanese copy of Panzer Dragoon, using the GameShark, won't work either. The easiest solution was to just buy a U.S. copy. I guess that's not as feasible of an option in this case. It's might be remotely possible to trade your Japanese copy to a fan for a U.S. copy.
The Japanese copy of Panzer Dragon Saga WILL work on US systems with an Action Replay, however.
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OKay, this might be a dumb question, but have you considered picking up a PAL saturn?
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Actually i have the pal not jap version and yes i could sell it i guess and then buy usa one but im figureing it out and in the mean time i figured out a way to play the game atleast once. which this game is amazeing i love it so much better then most newer stuff out there no one understands the greatness that is classic gameing which still fells new to me. And yes i think i might get a uk saturn i need a backup anyways but i here i need a power converter so how much does that cost? lol god gameing has gotten so spendy with my fav systems now -a days
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Compatibility depends on how a game was programmed. Breaking saturn region code alone, has similar caveats to systems like Sega Genesis.

Action Replay does not change the hardware's color encoding or sync rate.

most NTSC saturns without mods: PAL games will be forced into NTSC 60hz
most PAL saturns without mods: NTSC games will be forced into PAL 50hz

Of course RGB gets around color mode. But 50/60 hz may still be an issue... Some games had optimizations for one or the other, and not every TV supports both.
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