Valkyrie-Favor wrote:I don't have a problem with a continuous story distributed across 2 games, but I do have a problem with DLC-exclusive story. Can't resell it...and what happens when my PS3 dies again and PSN eventually goes offline? Part of the game will be lost forever unless it's pirated somewhere.
This I agree is a legitimate concern, but it isn't "story-specific" and it isn't even DLC-specific. It is also a real concern for actual whole games released only as downloadables and tied to specific hardware.
Also note that it was already a problem with stuff like arcade games - fortunately many of those got dumped. It is a question of preservation. And strangely it is a point in favor of piracy, in a sense, as piracy provides incentives for people to care about preservation before it is too late - in quite a roundabout way, true, but looking at it historically it is certainly what seems to happen.
Valkyrie-Favor wrote:I don't have a problem with a continuous story distributed across 2 games, but I do have a problem with DLC-exclusive story. Can't resell it...and what happens when my PS3 dies again and PSN eventually goes offline? Part of the game will be lost forever unless it's pirated somewhere.
The average consumer doesn't think that far ahead anymore. In 5 years our consoles will be too "old" and "obsolete" to play.
That's just the way gaming has always been though. Hell it's the only reason the term "retro gamer" even exists.
I wasn't planning on playing this shit sandwich, and I'm still not.
I really didn't like the idea of DLC. I thought it was slowly going to turn into a way for developers to sell half a game and then make you pay extra for the rest of it. Unsurprisingly, this has turned out to be the case. I'm glad some people like paying over and over and over again for a game, but I guess PT Barnum was right.
The really problem, btw, isn't even that Squaresoft (please, let's not drag Enix in on this, I'm sure they had nothing to do with it) thinks releasing a 50 hour game without the ending for $60 and then nickel and dime-ing the rest of the story as DLC is a good idea. It's that if you give these blood-sucking leeches an inch, they'll take a mile. Developers started by withholding maps that could have gone on the disc. Then they made you pay to access content that actually WAS on the disc you already paid for! Now they're making you pay for part of the actual GAME. Pretty soon you'll see a game (let's call it Final Fantasy XIV, but really, anyone can do this in the future) that is sold for $60 and is 30 hours and only the first third of the game.
Flake wrote:Hey, reason #4567 why I turned my back on Square years ago.
Square selling DLC in the future made you turn your back on them in the past? Why haven't you use your prognostication skills to become rich off the stock market?
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Valkyrie-Favor wrote:I don't have a problem with a continuous story distributed across 2 games, but I do have a problem with DLC-exclusive story. Can't resell it...and what happens when my PS3 dies again and PSN eventually goes offline? Part of the game will be lost forever unless it's pirated somewhere.
The average consumer doesn't think that far ahead anymore. In 5 years our consoles will be too "old" and "obsolete" to play.
That's just the way gaming has always been though. Hell it's the only reason the term "retro gamer" even exists.
But that's the thing... Retro gamers won't have the chance to play catch-up in future generations. The first Xbox Live got shut down, and there's no reason to believe that the current incarnation will be around 5-10 years from now either. And all that content-rich DLC? The Mass Effect 2 storylines, FFXII-2's ending, dozens of excellent download only titles... May all disappear with it. I say "may" because, as much as I hope that Microsoft will have the brains to bring Xbox's library to the next generation, consoles are trending away from backwards compatibility as well. (To say nothing of the fact that some of these purchases, like the DSWare store and Virtual Console, are locked to the fucking console you buy them on!)
sabrage wrote:But that's the thing... Retro gamers won't have the chance to play catch-up in future generations. The first Xbox Live got shut down
Death of Legendary Consoles
Try catching up with the Dreamcast! I lamented on this many a time here, nearly all the games that say "Online Multi-Player", good luck with that! Yeah I know there's ways to keep doing it but it requires a lot of luck and patience. Don't forget games like Dynamite Cop that had early forms of DLC.
Now that Square did it, it's only gonna get worse my current gen friends.
Xeogred wrote:The obvious answer is that it's time for the Dreamcast 2.