Authoritarian, nah. It's just a mindset of you are the most influential person in controlling and creating your own destiny, it's not the police holding you back or the government holding you down. Beyond that, its simply a time-tested practice of setting limits, detailing consequences, and once the limit has been exceeded, you are held accountable for your actions. That is all I see going on here.
Honestly, imo this entire "protest" for inequality or whatever it is supposed to be has gone too far. If you want to miss work (assuming you have a job? Or a job that for whatever reason allows you to miss work and hold signs in crowds all day?) then that is your perrogative, if you want to make a point (which I still am missing? You have more than me so i'm mad at you and you should have to share it with me?) then that is fine as well - but when it starts to affect those of us with real lives, then I start to personally get pissed.
I had to take 2 of our new hires to get fingerprinted yesterday and I had to wade through a bunch of 20-somethings with shaggy beards and signs that made NO SENSE, only to have one of these weirdos shouting at me that "don't go in there or your part of the problem"? "There" is the county courthouse...and I work for a hospital, so i'm really confused at what this group of occupiers thinks they are protesting?
Beyond that, the amount of property taxes I will now have to pay to support the immense Police OT my small town has spent pisses me off. Probably going to add $40-50 to my tax bill once they meet for new levies in January. Ridiculous at this point, and the sick part is Obama who has been a comical failure is using these jobless isotopes as his new platform, just silly.
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For those of you who don't understand here it is stated simply, from the article I posted earlier today:mjmjr25 wrote: if you want to make a point (which I still am missing? You have more than me so i'm mad at you and you should have to share it with me?) then that is fine as well - but when it starts to affect those of us with real lives, then I start to personally get pissed.
Does that make it clear enough? These protests are about law and order, which we no longer have in this country.But back to Charles Prince. For his four years of in charge of massive, repeated fraud at Citigroup, he received fifty-three million dollars in salary and also received another ninety-four million dollars in stock holdings. What Charles Prince has *not* received is a pair of zipcuffs. The nerves in his thumb are fine. No cop has thrown Charles Prince into the pavement, face-first. Each and every peaceful, nonviolent Occupy LA protester arrested last week has has spent more time sleeping on a jail floor than every single Charles Prince on Wall Street, combined.
The more I think about that, the madder I get. What does it say about our country that nonviolent protesters are given the bottom of a police boot while those who steal hundreds of billions, do trillions worth of damage to our economy and shatter our social fabric for a generation are not only spared the zipcuffs but showered with rewards?
In any event, believe it or not, I’m really not angry that I got arrested. I chose to get arrested. And I’m not even angry that the mayor and the LAPD decided to give non-violent protestors like me a little extra shiv in jail (although I’m not especially grateful for it either).
I’m just really angry that every single Charles Prince wasn’t in jail with me.
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So are mortgage fraud and perjury. When will Charles Prince be pepper sprayed and joint locked?Flake wrote:Obstruction of justice, threatening a law enforcement officer, false imprisonment, trespassing. At least two of these are felonies.
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When he resists arrest.Hatta wrote:So are mortgage fraud and perjury. When will Charles Prince be pepper sprayed and joint locked?Flake wrote:Obstruction of justice, threatening a law enforcement officer, false imprisonment, trespassing. At least two of these are felonies.
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And just which of these did the sitting UC Davis students commit?Flake wrote:Obstruction of justice, threatening a law enforcement officer, false imprisonment, trespassing. At least two of these are felonies. What were the police supposed to do? Stay there all day and all night?
Actually, UC Davis president said she never gave such an order.The protesters were ordered to leave both by law enforcement and by the owners of the private property they were illegally gathered on, the campus of UC Davis. They then forced the police into a confrontation.
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So let's arrest Charles Prince already. He's clearly a much more dangerous criminal than anyone in Occupy.MrPopo wrote:When he resists arrest.So are mortgage fraud and perjury. When will Charles Prince be pepper sprayed and joint locked?
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I guess for some, certainly not for me. I guess to use the cliche', "I could care less." I certainly am not going to go harrass the government workers or police in my tiny Hamlet.Hatta wrote: Does that make it clear enough? These protests are about law and order, which we no longer have in this country.
Wouldn't it behoove you and every other protester to go to Washington and hold up signs saying, "Your move Obama!" or "HOLDER - Charge or Resign, your choice."
Why hasn't Eric Holder charged this person, or these other people?
What is the point in standing in front of government buildings in these other cities - more importantly in front of government officials that were freely elected? Its a mish-mash of misguided teens and twenty-somethings who are looking for their civil rights movement, their suffrage movement, their Free Tibet movement...but sadly you and other protesters have tied their wagons to a lead balloon, there is nothing here. Protest child molestors who get off on technicalities, but stop blocking the walkway to the building that my tax dollars pay to be open and accessible.
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Didn't the banks already go through due process? If I recall right, you got pissed about it because they elected to go for a settlement instead of continuing to press charges.Hatta wrote:So let's arrest Charles Prince already. He's clearly a much more dangerous criminal than anyone in Occupy.MrPopo wrote:When he resists arrest.So are mortgage fraud and perjury. When will Charles Prince be pepper sprayed and joint locked?
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Oh, so when its a bank executive stealing billions of dollars from people, forcing the government to spend billions of dollars to clean up the mess, you could care less. But when people who are upset about crime complain to the government about it, that's when you "get pissed"?mjmjr25 wrote: I guess for some, certainly not for me. I guess to use the cliche', "I could care less."
You sir have one seriously fucked up set of priorities.
If we all had time and money to do so, that would be a good idea.Wouldn't it behoove you and every other protester to go to Washington and hold up signs saying, "Your move Obama!" or "HOLDER - Charge or Resign, your choice."
That's an excellent question. One that every Occupy protester would like answered.Why hasn't Eric Holder charged this person, or these other people?
To get our local officials to do anything they can to hold criminals responsible for their crimes.What is the point in standing in front of government buildings in these other cities - more importantly in front of government officials that were freely elected?
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Yes, I was pissed that they got special treatment because of their wealth and power. Justice is blind. The American legal system is not.MrPopo wrote: Didn't the banks already go through due process? If I recall right, you got pissed about it because they elected to go for a settlement instead of continuing to press charges.
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