When This Generation is Over, Will D/L Games Still Work?

[flex wood]

Is the 360 done with updates?

Hah (ms. krabopple) No 360 is far from done with updates I read that another is coming soon maybe it's already out I never turn mine on anymore.

The only games that I know you have to be connected to XBL are the indie games (which I really don't like since I switch an ethernet between my ps3 and 360) and games like battlefield 1943 which are multiplayer only.
I really don't think that our dl'd games will disappear. While it is a possiblity think about all the dlc that has been released. If our games disappear so does dlc can you imagine how many cod fanboys would be pist? It would be IP suicide to just take away everything away.

[Inazuma]

Hah (ms. krabopple) No 360 is far from done with updates I read that another is coming soon maybe it's already out I never turn mine on anymore.

The only games that I know you have to be connected to XBL are the indie games (which I really don't like since I switch an ethernet between my ps3 and 360) and games like battlefield 1943 which are multiplayer only.
I really don't think that our dl'd games will disappear. While it is a possiblity think about all the dlc that has been released. If our games disappear so does dlc can you imagine how many cod fanboys would be pist? It would be IP suicide to just take away everything away.

The games that require an online connection will basically disappear, since they will be completely unplayable. Games that can be played offline will still work, unless your hard drive dies and then you will lose everything. You won't be able to re-download any of it because the servers will be down for good.

Lastly, and arguably most importantly, all of this stuff will be gone for good. If the year is 2020 and you want to play some old Xbox 360 download game, there will be no legal way to do it. Retro gaming will become synonymous with piracy and hacking, because that will be the only possible way to do it. And if piracy is required to play retro games, Microsoft and Sony will sue you and/or have you arrested for it.

The future of video games is pretty much completely fucking horrible and absurd as a mother fucker, and we are partially to blame for it. We need to wake up and start giving a fuck about our rights, because there is almost nothing left at this point.

[flex wood]

Hah (ms. krabopple) No 360 is far from done with updates I read that another is coming soon maybe it's already out I never turn mine on anymore.

The only games that I know you have to be connected to XBL are the indie games (which I really don't like since I switch an ethernet between my ps3 and 360) and games like battlefield 1943 which are multiplayer only.
I really don't think that our dl'd games will disappear. While it is a possiblity think about all the dlc that has been released. If our games disappear so does dlc can you imagine how many cod fanboys would be pist? It would be IP suicide to just take away everything away.

The games that require an online connection will basically disappear, since they will be completely unplayable. Games that can be played offline will still work, unless your hard drive dies and then you will lose everything. You won't be able to re-download any of it because the servers will be down for good.

Lastly, and arguably most importantly, all of this stuff will be gone for good. If the year is 2020 and you want to play some old Xbox 360 download game, there will be no legal way to do it. Retro gaming will become synonymous with piracy and hacking, because that will be the only possible way to do it. And if piracy is required to play retro games, Microsoft and Sony will sue you and/or have you arrested for it.

The future of video games is pretty much completely fucking horrible and absurd as a mother fucker, and we are partially to blame for it. We need to wake up and start giving a fuck about our rights, because there is almost nothing left at this point.

Honestly it is way to early to tell everything you have said is speculative worst case scenario. I don't really think it will be that bad and I mean hey if it does get that bad you know the "I told you so" that you're gonna drop on us will feel so good.
If it comes to piracy I'm totally fine with that.

[Korpi]

Microsoft or Sony aren't the companies I'd trust in maintain anything that doesn't make clear profit. There's also the thing that they like to release emulated versions of games and remakes, no reason for them to support older consoles. Consoles are worse, than PC download services, as you are also dependent on the hardware functioning in addition to hoping that the servers are kept up and to keeping your account safe or unbanned. At least on PC you can't do anything that would get you banned, apart from single games, and isn't dependent on proprietary hardware and future of service like Steam seems very stable, and I can somewhat trust them to let me play the games offline if they go under. I can also use different service provider; in case something goes wrong, I lose only a part of my games. Regardless, I don't currently use Steam, GoG is where it's at. Impulse was sold to GameStop so I gave up on that.

I don't actually know can you get banned on console services and games, but I recall 360 users with modded consoles got banned from online service. I don't know if that was reverted, but it tells about the power these companies have over the products and how ready they are to use those powers.

It's a bit paranoid doomsday thinking perhaps, but I also take it as a chance to vote for the future of gaming with my wallet, and fight against these big companies. It only gets worse if people allow it, and it surely will get worse with this pace.

[ZenErik]

I trust companies that were taking losses on their consoles at launch over Nintendo.

[D.D.D.]

I trust companies that were taking losses on their consoles at launch over Nintendo.

And this is based on what?

[Korpi]

I guess you referred to my post. I don't know anything about Nintendo and Wii, so I can't comment on that. Neutral area for me. I use Sony and Microsoft products a lot, but I still don't trust them much.

[FerretGamer]

A lot of stuff won't work or won't be available after the servers are taken down. That's a big reason why they do it. And that's why people like me can't support any of it.

You may be able to hack your systems to get around this problem but that's a shitty solution. I think we should be able to legally acquire and play old games normally.

If idiots would stop buying DLC and DRM'd download games, the game companies would stop doing it, and everything would be fine. But gamers in general aren't smart enough to realize that they are killing video games. Game companies know that we are a bunch of idiots, so they take full advantage of us and will continue to fuck us over and destroy video games until someone or something forces them to stop.

I fully agree and do not buy any download content. I will go as far as importing a EU or JPN copy of game just to have it in retail form. In fact, I hope more people on here feel the same way considering that this is a retro forum. It will be interesting 20 years from now when someone wants to try and track down an XBL or PSN exclusive game to play and experience for the first time or to relive some memories.

[flex wood]

I don't know why this hasn't been brought up....

Backwords compatibility! for dlc not physical media thanks sony

Sony is doing it with the vita so you can just re dl the games you have purchased on psn. I think that will be the trend that companies take. Yea if your original hardware fails you may have to upgrade to a ps6 or xbox 1080 but to just throw all those games from the servers? Nah not gonna happen. They will still be able to sell them and people will still buy them. Everyone is forgetting that there are kids that look at castle crashers like we looked at mario in the 80s.
I think when the current gen is retro it will be one of the greatest times for retro gaming. Think about not having to pay crazy ebay prices and the money you actually spend will go to the devs. And that is actually speaking with your wallet to game companies.

Oh and probably 90% of my favorite games this gen have been download only games.

[TEKTORO]

I was offline for a week recently and had an idea to check this out myself.
What I found was that im not DL shit from now on.I have over 200 games DL on my 360 and 10% of them worked while offline and even the ones that did work I can see some way or another of them yanking that too.
My original xbox games and 360 dl'ed games worked.
All indie games and mostly all arcade titles died when my system went offline.
I just deleted everything out of human emotion and realized I blew about a 1/2 grand.