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Just received this PM from retrosportsgamer, thought better to answer here for other ideas.
retrosportsgamer wrote:Hey there - does this sound like that semi-rare HD WEGA:

LOWERED 30" sony wega widescreen - $75 (west chester)

tv for sale
sony wega 30" widescreen
hdmi input, hd capable
Any widescreen HD CRT is rare, can only be purchased used
A 4:3 HD CRT is even harder to find. Be sure if it is HDMI or DVI input, a lot of WEGAs use DVI. Not a problem, easily converted to HDMI with an adaptor cable. Be sure any equipment that has HDMI also has RCA audio connections which is needed when utilizing an older DVI input HD. Some external HDMI switchboxes for example, do not have the additional RCA audio jacks.

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What is the model number of the WEGA?

Widescreen size is also something to watch out for. Go larger compared to a 4:3 to get the same viewing area.
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It's this guy:

30" Sony Trinitron WEGA HD-ready CRT model KV-30HS420

Not particularly interested in light guns - moreso that my Neo Geo and Pc Engine boot up to a nice full 4:3 without refresh flickering.

Interested in your thoughts. Thanks
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retrosportsgamer wrote:It's this guy:

30" Sony Trinitron WEGA HD-ready CRT model KV-30HS420

Not particularly interested in light guns - moreso that my Neo Geo and Pc Engine boot up to a nice full 4:3 without refresh flickering.

Interested in your thoughts. Thanks
Great TV with HDMI so you don't need a DVI adaptor cable. I don't think the widescreen will be a problem for 4:3 games if you don't mind the stretch. CRTs tend to be more forgiving then LCDs at 480i resolution. Pic will be clear with no dot crawl problems of LCDs. The best part is support for both older consoles with Composite and SVideo as well as current HD consoles with Component and HDMI. :D

Your Manual: http://www.docs.sony.com/release/KV30HS420rev.pdf
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Another PM received, CRT WEGAS are getting popular again:
Jamisonia wrote:Picked up a Sony Wega HD CRT this weekend for the gf's mother. It was a steal around here for only $20. Came with the matching stand too. Only unfortunate thing was no DVI port.

Omg was that thing heavy. like I literally thought I was going to get hurt moving that thing. I hear 250lbs, two people only 125 a person. Yeah thats lot. Doesn't seem like a lot but omg. I'm lucky to be alive I'm dead serious.

The picture is great. I think HD CRTs might be better looking than LCDs. However, I am bummed about lack of WS support. IMO that makes these useless to me. If I'm going to play my PS2, Xbox, or GCN in progressive scan, I'd like to use WS when available. And 2 lack of light gun support. That just does it in for me. But she loves it, for her basement. She can have HD boxes in all rooms now.
Congrats on getting a HD CRT! Which model number?

HDMI is better then DVI
In terms of connecting today's HDMI systems. No need for a DVI to HDMI conversion cable or separate RCA audio cables. VGA won't work directly on DVI without a transcoder anyways.

A 4:3 compromise for non widescreen games
480p supported games play fine at 480p when widescreen is turned off. If you do use the Widescreen mode in a PS2 game, it still fills up the screen, but with squeezed skinny game characters in the image. An opposite affect of fat game characters when stretching a 4:3 image on a widescreen HDTV. :lol:

I prefer a 4:3 screen since the majority of my consoles and games do not support widescreen.

Lightgun
I too, was disappointed in my PS2 and Dreamcast Lightgun not working on a HD CRT. Get a Wii and enjoy House of the Dead with the Sensor Bar Remote. :D
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CRTGAMER wrote:
retrosportsgamer wrote:It's this guy:

30" Sony Trinitron WEGA HD-ready CRT model KV-30HS420

Not particularly interested in light guns - moreso that my Neo Geo and Pc Engine boot up to a nice full 4:3 without refresh flickering.

Interested in your thoughts. Thanks
Great TV with HDMI so you don't need a DVI adaptor cable. I don't think the widescreen will be a problem for 4:3 games if you don't mind the stretch. CRTs tend to be more forgiving then LCDs at 480i resolution. Pic will be clear with no dot crawl problems of LCDs. The best part is support for both older consoles with Composite and SVideo as well as current HD consoles with Component and HDMI. :D

Your Manual: http://www.docs.sony.com/release/KV30HS420rev.pdf
Thanks - so how does the stretch work? Is it automatic with black horizontal bars?
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So while the HD guy looks awesome (still hunting) - i'm also really digging this 27" WEGA - two component and two S-video hookups. Little bit bigger than the 24" (my screen is shot - needs professional fixing) and no stretching.

http://www.docs.sony.com/release/KV27FV310.PDF
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retrosportsgamer wrote:
CRTGAMER wrote:Great TV with HDMI so you don't need a DVI adaptor cable. I don't think the widescreen will be a problem for 4:3 games if you don't mind the stretch. CRTs tend to be more forgiving then LCDs at 480i resolution. Pic will be clear with no dot crawl problems of LCDs. The best part is support for both older consoles with Composite and SVideo as well as current HD consoles with Component and HDMI. :D

Your Manual: http://www.docs.sony.com/release/KV30HS420rev.pdf
Thanks - so how does the stretch work? Is it automatic with black horizontal bars?
Not sure on the Widescreen CRT, maybe in the TV Menu. My guess is 4:3 images will have black bars on the sides if the TV is at 480p or 480i. On my WEGA 4:3 HD anything above 480p sets to widescreen, undistorted with black bars above and below. At 480p or 480i a full 4:3 screen.
retrosportsgamer wrote:So while the HD guy looks awesome (still hunting) - i'm also really digging this 27" WEGA - two component and two S-video hookups. Little bit bigger than the 24" (my screen is shot - needs professional fixing) and no stretching.

http://www.docs.sony.com/release/KV27FV310.PDF
Looks like a 480i TV perfect for Lightguns if you ever go that route. Disappointing for the Component non 480p hookup though.
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retrosportsgamer wrote:
Thanks - so how does the stretch work? Is it automatic with black horizontal bars?
Actually, you can set various options for displaying 4:3 images on a 16:9 tv. You can either have it stretch the image out or you can have it display as 4:3 with vertical bars on the sides.
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AppleQueso wrote:
retrosportsgamer wrote:
Thanks - so how does the stretch work? Is it automatic with black horizontal bars?
Actually, you can set various options for displaying 4:3 images on a 16:9 tv. You can either have it stretch the image out or you can have it display as 4:3 with vertical bars on the sides.
HD CRTs do not have all the zoom controls as a LCD. But maybe this one might.
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AppleQueso wrote:
retrosportsgamer wrote:
Thanks - so how does the stretch work? Is it automatic with black horizontal bars?
Actually, you can set various options for displaying 4:3 images on a 16:9 tv. You can either have it stretch the image out or you can have it display as 4:3 with vertical bars on the sides.
Yeah, I have that experience on my current LCD and have had a ton of issues with Neo Geo and PC Engine. As CRTGamer told me before - being a CRT will probably alleviate that vs. an LCD - even with the vertical bars.
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