Here We Go Again. More Screwy PS3 Firmware Updates

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We hear the OMG IT BRICKED MY CONSOLE stuff with every firmware update
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If there is one thing i dont care about it's automatic updates. Be it windows automatic updates or Firefox making me wait when just need to run a quick search on google. However as much as i hate these forced on updates they can be rolled back or ignored if i find they are actually worse or are causing my pc to act unstable.

But when it comes to firmware your options are limited heck i have no clue how you would fix a bad rom update save for getting a whole new chipset.

And because of that a firmware update should always be handled with extreme caution. For example how many here when it comes to updating your pc think of updating the bios ?

Not many i assume and the reason well if you mess it up you dont have a pc anymore. Until you go out and get a motherboard replacement.

So a firmware update for a ps3 or any gadget there is should never be taken lightly. But updates can be for the better no doubt however they should be infrequent and most importantly risk free.

No one likes to have his console just shut down because of a botched update and no one should have to experience it in the first place. But as the 360 showed us a known failure rate does not deter people from buying a replacement or sticking with hardware that is not 100% reliable.

In conclusion when you update your firmware be aware that it might just be the last time you see it in action. No matter how minuscule the risk is it is there.
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the7k wrote:
Weekend_Warrior wrote:So I guess that makes it alright then? Just like when they removed backwards compatibility, then removed the ability to install other OS's, then disabled many USB devices, etc etc.. ? That's all ok huh?

What's next - disable the fucking Blu Ray player?
I see. Even though I mentioned nothing about the removal of BC (which was entirely voluntary - you can still use it if you have BC unit, so it's not a good grounds for arguing anything anyway), Other OS or certain USB devices, you'll put all that into my mouth in order to make me look wrong and thus you look right.

I never excused any of that. Never. You're just putting words into my mouth. Unless Sony intentionally makes these firmware updates with the expressed purpose of bricking systems for no apparent reason, this has absolutely nothing to do with any of the crap you just listed.

It's a technical issue. Not a feature take-away. Other systems have their share of those too, like the original Xbox 360's notorious failure rate & disc-scratching (technical issue) and Microsoft's decision to kill all support for third-party memory devices (feature take-away). Technical issues are an inevitability, feature rollbacks are not.

Nice try, though.
Exactly. Or how about when Nintendo did the feature takeaway by patching the Wii so it no longer did any online gaming? Oh wait it never did that... ZING!










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The stupidity of fanboys, and even worse, fanhaters always amazed me. If the guys on the other camp have a console that breaks down, tough luck for them, but ultimately you're the one with the working console, so why should you care?

If your own console breaks down, complain a bit to the company, and if they don't fix it don't buy their console again.

But trying to see which of 2 multinational corporations is more evil and has violated more user rights, is like trying to find out which poisonous snake's venom is more deadly. It doesn't matter!!! If MS and Sony could have their way, you'd be their slaves. Why do people have the need to defend and/or attack a company?

I can understand attacking a company you feel has wronged you, but saying the other company is better is deluding yourself.
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ZeroAX wrote:The stupidity of fanboys, and even worse, fanhaters always amazed me. If the guys on the other camp have a console that breaks down, tough luck for them, but ultimately you're the one with the working console, so why should you care?

If your own console breaks down, complain a bit to the company, and if they don't fix it don't buy their console again.

But trying to see which of 2 multinational corporations is more evil and has violated more user rights, is like trying to find out which poisonous snake's venom is more deadly. It doesn't matter!!! If MS and Sony could have their way, you'd be their slaves. Why do people have the need to defend and/or attack a company?

I can understand attacking a company you feel has wronged you, but saying the other company is better is deluding yourself.
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During a previous firmware down date, RLOD happened to son's PS3. Maybe a fluke, but PS3 did fail during the firm burn process. Sony gladly charged for the service repair. I'm pretty sure a trace of the account would have proven the firmware fail if they had cared.

I think every console that is firmware burn should have a local emergency disc with older firmware restore capabilities. You would think the big three would have built in a separate Rom chip to allow a built in restore fix. Especially since the firmware update is required to continue to go on online.
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CRTGAMER wrote:During a previous firmware down date, RLOD happened to son's PS3. Maybe a fluke, but PS3 did fail during the firm burn process. Sony gladly charged for the service repair. I'm pretty sure a trace of the account would have proven the firmware fail if they had cared.

I think every console that is firmware burn should have a local emergency disc with older firmware restore capabilities. You would think the big three would have built in a separate Rom chip to allow a built in restore fix. Especially since the firmware update is required to continue to go on online.
but then how would sony be able to stop those horrible nasty pie-rates!?!?!?!?!?!?
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Weekend_Warrior wrote: *On a side note* What the fuck is up with people on this board lately? Getting so damn grouchy. Is it because of the holiday season or what? Jeez. Drink some egg nog and relax
It's Chrismas - the most awful time of the year.

Also, you were breeding FUD. No one likes that, especially when it's about firmware updates that possibly brick systems, and you act like it's a huge problem and only Sony's problem. It's not just Sony's problem. As I said, mountains out of molehills.

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Dunno about Nintendo's online service - I kinda stopped caring after they took away the ability to play Smash Bros Brawl online.

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While that's great that they added USB support, that still means people's money was wasted on previously bought third-party devices - and begs the question "Why were certain third-party memory devices disabled if they were just going to make other ones work?"

Shit, I'm not going to argue that the removal of Other OS wasn't a dick move. The whole USB controller issue seemed to only affect knock-off controllers, as none of my USB devices were affected, but it's still something I wouldn't consider necessary. Despite all this, much like Xbox 360 users with 3rd-party memory just upgraded to 1st-party because it really wasn't that big of a deal, losing out of some functionality that I used once or twice before the novelty of an OS on a console wore off wasn't enough for me to boycott a system and lose out on, what at least I consider, to be an incredible library of games.

I mean, shit, that's what this is all about. My Wii, in the beginning, gave me nothing but trouble, but I kept trucking with it and dealing with it because games.
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It's Chrismas - the most awful time of the year.
What the hell is going on ?
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I don't see what the big deal is. If your that worried about bricking your console with firmware updates keep it offline and don't update your console. Its pretty simple really. I keep my PS3 offline because I just want to play and not download updates and patches. My gaming time is limited and precious.
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