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I think the main reason people think that computers are expensive is because they don't know what they want. They say "Hey, build me a computer for 500 euro!" without telling you what they want to do with it.

This leads to buying a computer in the local superstore that focuses only on big numbers because that's what sells. The staff misguides the costumers because they don't know what they are selling and why it's good or bad.

People also tend to want to have their cake and eat it too. They want a computer mainly for work but they may want to play a game every once in a while, which is like asking your small commuting car to go off-road. It doesn't matter if you play games once or everyday, the price jump is the same.


I usually have a budget of 600 for 5 years or so, more or less a generation of consoles. Given that you are still going to have a computer even if you have a console, that's 200 more euro you can use for the computer.

I say only 200 euro because you shouldn't pay more for a computer just to surf the internet and watch movies.

I'm not very savy when it comes to computers, I just ask around and inform myself before buying.

For example, for 670 euro you can have this computer built and tested including taxes:

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(The last item for 0 euro is a gift)

Seems very fair to me, I can't understand people saying that computers are expensive when modern consoles do far less things and are not exactly cheap either.

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Americans buy alienware PCs which are big scams. Also it seams PC parts are cheaper in Europe, since 100$ = 80€
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ZeroAX wrote:Americans buy alienware PCs which are big scams.
I've met plenty of idiots worldwide. :roll:
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ZeroAX wrote:Americans buy alienware PCs which are big scams.
Granted I'm a computer nerd too and build my own, as do many of my friends but I've never actually seen an Alienware PC in person except perhaps at a store. I've never known anyone that owns one.
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Any reason why you're going for the 5770 instead of the 6870? For a mere 15% increase in total budget you get nearly twice the performance.
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Niode wrote:Any reason why you're going for the 5770 instead of the 6870? For a mere 15% increase in total budget you get nearly twice the performance.
I just looked in a forum where you can ask posters to help build a computer and liked this one. It's just an example to show how computers are not expensive.

ZeroAX wrote:Americans buy alienware PCs which are big scams. Also it seams PC parts are cheaper in Europe, since 100$ = 80€
Changing the currency doesn't change the price! The mistake comes from assuming that the American and the European have the same number of their currency. The currency being a 20% lower doesn't mean that the prices follow suit.


Alienware is not alone. Have you seen HP? They flood all the stores I see and they are all bad, overpriced computers. They had a computer like mine but with a bad motherboard and a mediocre power supply for 1200 euro when I had mine for half the price. The sad part is that those sell well.
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General_Norris wrote: Alienware is not alone. Have you seen HP? They flood all the stores I see and they are all bad, overpriced computers. They had a computer like mine but with a bad motherboard and a mediocre power supply for 1200 euro when I had mine for half the price. The sad part is that those sell well.

They call Apple HP in mainland europe? or are we talking another overpriced awful computer making company? 8)

Yes I went there. :wink:

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Also, I don't actually care all that much, I'm not interested in a Mac vs PC discussion thanks.
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alienjesus wrote:They call Apple HP in mainland europe? or are we talking another overpriced awful computer making company? 8)
Hewelt Packward or whatever it's called. You know, the guys who make printers. They sell premade PCs.
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General_Norris wrote:
alienjesus wrote:They call Apple HP in mainland europe? or are we talking another overpriced awful computer making company? 8)
Hewelt Packward or whatever it's called. You know, the guys who make printers. They sell premade PCs.
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YoshiEgg25 wrote:I don't even want to tell you. Just go ahead with what you're thinking.
Nooo, teeell me!
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