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Re: Advice on getting a new graphics card?

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isaacsquared wrote:I've shopped around a little bit, mostly on newegg. I also tried tigerdirect, but didn't like their site as much. Does this appear to be a reasonable card? I know it's a step down from what y'all were suggesting, but it's nice and cheap.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... -_-Product

Keep in mind that WoW is pretty much the latest thing I'll be wanting to play, maybe Starcraft 2 if it ever really does come out. Thanks!
If you're going to go for an older nvidia based card, at least get an 8800GT. Here's one for the same price that's a lot better than that 8600.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6814143118

Granted this one will need a power plug, but it comes with an adapter if you have to use a drive plug, 2 DVI to VGA adapters, and a TV out module.
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Eh, it's hard going down this road. Most stock power supplies are absolute shit, 300w at best. You might be chocking it with an 8800, and any other power thirsty card for that mater.
isaacsquared wrote:I've shopped around a little bit, mostly on newegg. I also tried tigerdirect, but didn't like their site as much. Does this appear to be a reasonable card? I know it's a step down from what y'all were suggesting, but it's nice and cheap.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... -_-Product

Keep in mind that WoW is pretty much the latest thing I'll be wanting to play, maybe Starcraft 2 if it ever really does come out. Thanks!
Go for it! It's $25 after a rebate, it doesn't get any better than that! All you need it for is WoW. I put an 8600 in my mom's computer and it isn't bad at all. And for $25, it's not like any one can tell you you're wasting your money. Again, you don't need it for the latest games so it's great for the price.
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Ah, I totally glazed over the rebate. Just don't forget to send it in. Do it as soon as you get the card running in the machine and scan or xerox a copy of the filled in form and such before you send it in.
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Re: Advice on getting a new graphics card?

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puke_face wrote:
Niode wrote:nVidia are a joke, they don't even have a Directx11 card out to market yet, and probably won't have one for a long time now. ATi have left them in the dust.

A 4850 will wipe the floor with a 9800GT and cost the same price. Trust me, go for a Radeon 4850 if you're even considering a 9800GT. That goes for anybody. If you don't believe me, go look up benchmarks for the Radeon 48xx and 5xxx series. Completely obliterating anything nVidia has got on market, and the best part. It costs less.
I disagree. ATI always throws driver issues, even on Linux installs. They always have to have driver updates, have crappy hardware keeping it together, take up alot of space, and consume a lot of power. Nvida supports damn near everything under the sun, and the display quality is better. Why do you think ATI costs less? Poor quality. They build them with cheaper hardware. If you don't want the hassle of having to re-tweak the settings of the card all the time, go with Nvidia.
You are clearly a fanboy making shit up. I've been using my 4870 since I bought it September 2008, and aside from a required bios update to stop the card overheating (it wasn't scaling the fans to deal with heat efficiently due to bug in the very first batches of the cards -- I bought the card within weeks of it coming out -- I fixed this by making my own xml profile for CCC which took 10 seconds to do and then later updated the BIOS when I felt like it) and Java not working consistently in Vista (vista's fault since it's a piece of shit, I upgraded to Windows 7 and the problem vanished completely). I don't see what the problem is. nVidia cards are just as big if not even bigger than the latest cards from ATi. ATi cards aren't any less efficient than the equivalent card. Those saying no games are using DX11, might want to keep up to date with the current game releases, I know that Call of Pripyat, Dirt 2, Metro 2033 and Battlefield: Bad Company 2 use DX11 just off the top of my head.

I have never had to 're-tweak' the settings of my card. Never had any driver issues. Nothing. Hell, I very rarely feel the need to upgrade my drives, half the time it's by choice since I have 10 minutes to kill... No games have ever come out that have forced me to upgrade drivers.

Seriously, stop talking out of your ass. The only people supporting nVidia are fanboys. Every single buyer's guide I have read all say to buy Radeon. You'd be dumb not to, unless of course, you don't need/want to play the latest games. Then it's fine to spend £20-30 on an 8800GT that will play anything circa 3 years ago. People saying the drivers suck on ATi are just making shit up to justify their poor buying decision. They don't. Having used nVidia cards for a long time up until ATi started wiping the floor with nVidia a couple of years ago, I find the CCC much easier to use than nVidia's drivers. I have yet to have a single driver issue.

I wouldn't know about this stuff if I hadn't spent hours and hours researching my purchases. I never pull the trigger on something unless I know it offers the best bang for buck. The system I built for £500 was the best £500 I ever spent, it's still running all the latest games at 1152p on max settings 18months after I bought it.
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No, I'm not making a damn thing up. I have owned and worked with both brands of the two cards. I've actually had both brands crap out on me. To say I'm a fanboy is one thing, but to tell me to stop talking out of my ass is another. I didn't make a single personal comment towards you. Clearly you are the fanboy between the two of us, otherwise you wouldn't have so much to defend. Your research doesn't mean dick to anybody but yourself. I simply said I disagree. The guy is looking for a mid end card, not a high end. The higher end cards I agree with you on. They do "wipe the floor" compared to Nvidia. But Nvidia without question makes the better mid end card for the price and quality.
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puke_face wrote:No, I'm not making a damn thing up. I have owned and worked with both brands of the two cards. I've actually had both brands crap out on me. To say I'm a fanboy is one thing, but to tell me to stop talking out of my ass is another. I didn't make a single personal comment towards you. Clearly you are the fanboy between the two of us, otherwise you wouldn't have so much to defend. Your research doesn't mean dick to anybody but yourself. I simply said I disagree. The guy is looking for a mid end card, not a high end. The higher end cards I agree with you on. They do "wipe the floor" compared to Nvidia. But Nvidia without question makes the better mid end card for the price and quality.
Then I merely interpreted your post wrongly. I apologise. I did say that for cheap cards then the 8800GT is in abundance and is very cheap though.
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Niode wrote:Then I merely interpreted your post wrongly. I apologise. I did say that for cheap cards then the 8800GT is in abundance and is very cheap though.
No biggie man, I apologize as well, didn't mean to snap back at ya so hard. But hey, it's all in good fun . :mrgreen:
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Re: Advice on getting a new graphics card?

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Hobie-wan wrote: If you're going to go for an older nvidia based card, at least get an 8800GT. Here's one for the same price that's a lot better than that 8600.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6814143118

Granted this one will need a power plug, but it comes with an adapter if you have to use a drive plug, 2 DVI to VGA adapters, and a TV out module.
I plan on getting that one, finally got the money in Paypal. What will I need to do for the power requirements? Sorry I'm such a noob.
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The 8800GT can draw up to 110w under load. What is the power rating of your current PSU? More importantly what is the maximum amps for your 12v rail? The 8800GT requires around 15 amps but is rated at 22 amps.
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The PSU is 250 W, I have no clue about the rail. Where could I find the rating for that?
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