Time into the original Zelda
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like me- you just agreed with everyone. Hows a man supposed to quote and add to that!noiseredux wrote:you quoted everybody except for me.
Though, I will at least chime in with you about youngsters and their game faqs and maybe we can hit a harmony as we both tell them to get off our lawn.
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Ok its not the only bush that is crying to be burned, and I believe by dungeon 8 you still didn't get the red candle(or did you?) , its not like you have a detailed map of every bush that needs to get burned. Not to mention, how would I know the Dungeon is under a tree? All the other dungeons had like a special screen for them and huge entrance, even the under water one(How would u know to play the recorder to reveal the dungeon, there is no way).Limewater wrote:
I actually found both of those levels without even looking for them. The bush covering dungeon 8 is just begging to be burned, since it is the only thing blocking passage from the left to the right of the screen. And there is a guy in a cave (maybe the cave hidden by the waterfall-- I don't remember) right near the entrance to five who says "Climb up, up the mountain ahead". Given that there is a maze in the southwest end of the map, it wasn't too hard to figure out that this screen worked the same way, just with a different pattern.
I am ashamed of this , but
I even scanned the COMPLETE map that noiserdux provided, and I still couldn't find number 8 on the map, I had to watch a youtube video(I also didn't get it from a text walkthrough)
As for the great hint from the old guy under the waterfall, they made it confusing on purpose.
he said go UP , UP , thats TWO ups . They at least could have said just 1 up , or continue to go up. I did twice, but then I thought he might wanted to show me the white sword, 1 up to go to the pond place, then the second up to enter the cave where the white sword is.
What is adventures of link?nickfil wrote:oh so kingmohd84-
are you going to try adventures of link now?
Because for as hard as zelda is, that game is fucking redic.
I was going to play the SNES one, Link to the Past I believe
I forgot to thank noiserdux, if it wasn't for your COMPLETE map, I would have NOT completed this game. I used the manual one provided by nintendo at first, but later on it got impossible.
btw, what was the secret in the old tree? Is it the gambling thing?
I also forgot to mention that I think it was great from Nintendo how they provided a map that you had to complete. It shows this videogames started like a game, a toy, something for fun. Now everything is digital and on the monitor, except for that card games for the playstation.
I think videogames and real life toys should be implemented together. A map, a special glasses, cards, I think it would be more fun and interactive than just a joystick and a monitor. Plus it would be hard to pirate physically manufactured stuff for each game.
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dude, definitely try Adventures Of Link (the 2nd game, for NES). I've been playing it a lot late. It's a side scroller. And probably the hardest Zelda game released.
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True. I think there are a couple vague hints scattered around, but much of it is just trial and error. Just trying shit out until you find the way to go. That pond where the dungeon is, is extremely suspect. I tried a lot out there before i got it to work the way it was intended.kingmohd84 wrote:Not to mention, how would I know the Dungeon is under a tree? All the other dungeons had like a special screen for them and huge entrance, even the under water one(How would u know to play the recorder to reveal the dungeon, there is no way).
the vagueness of hints is in part because gaming was in it's infancy (action RPGS for sure) coupled with the fact that some of the text could be just lost in translation of the game. Either way- misleading for sure.kingmohd84 wrote:As for the great hint from the old guy under the waterfall, they made it confusing on purpose.
he said go UP , UP , thats TWO ups . They at least could have said just 1 up , or continue to go up. I did twice, but then I thought he might wanted to show me the white sword, 1 up to go to the pond place, then the second up to enter the cave where the white sword is.
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That doesn't matter. It doesn't really cost you anything to burn a bush. Try all the ones that look funny! If you have the blue candle, that just means you have to leave the screen and then come back before you can use it again.kingmohd84 wrote: Ok its not the only bush that is crying to be burned
Also, there's never more than one secret on a screen, so once you find one, you know you can stop looking.
When I first saw that hint, I though it referred to the sword, too. But the maze screen is RIGHT next to the screen with the hint, and the other maze screen takes four moves to escape. Why wouldn't the one by level 5?As for the great hint from the old guy under the waterfall, they made it confusing on purpose.
he said go UP , UP , thats TWO ups . They at least could have said just 1 up , or continue to go up. I did twice, but then I thought he might wanted to show me the white sword, 1 up to go to the pond place, then the second up to enter the cave where the white sword is.
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I just figured out what that guy meant by west , south , north west, or whatever it was
I thought it was the instructions to get to the first dungeon, because I found it very early in the game.
How would I know there is no more than 1 secret per screen?
Any one recommends Adventure of Link?
I am not sure how its even worse than Legend of Zelda
is it confusing to go around ?I hate getting lost
No body ever talked about this game
again I say
This Zelda was created when no internet, I believe even VHS was still new, no consoles were around, and people wanted highest bang for their buck, they say this as a challenge not as a game to have fun. Maybe like high scores in the arcade.
I thought it was the instructions to get to the first dungeon, because I found it very early in the game.
How would I know there is no more than 1 secret per screen?
Any one recommends Adventure of Link?
I am not sure how its even worse than Legend of Zelda
is it confusing to go around ?I hate getting lost
No body ever talked about this game
again I say
This Zelda was created when no internet, I believe even VHS was still new, no consoles were around, and people wanted highest bang for their buck, they say this as a challenge not as a game to have fun. Maybe like high scores in the arcade.
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You thought "Go North, West, South, West in the Garden of Maze" referred to a dungeon instead of a maze?kingmohd84 wrote:I just figured out what that guy meant by west , south , north west, or whatever it was
I thought it was the instructions to get to the first dungeon, because I found it very early in the game.
You wouldn't, initially. That's one of the things you might observe if you were paying attention.How would I know there is no more than 1 secret per screen?
Given you much you hated The Legend of Zelda, I'm pretty sure you'll hate The Adventure of Link even more. It's a lot less forgiving.Any one recommends Adventure of Link?
I am not sure how its even worse than Legend of Zelda
You will get lost. Figuring out mazes has always been a part of the Zelda series. They've just gotten a lot easier with the transition to 3D.is it confusing to go around ?I hate getting lost
Nope. It was a challenge, but it was also quite fun. Playing the game like a checklist and using guides seriously saps most of the fun out of the game and makes it appear to be much more difficult than it actually is.again I say
This Zelda was created when no internet, I believe even VHS was still new, no consoles were around, and people wanted highest bang for their buck, they say this as a challenge not as a game to have fun. Maybe like high scores in the arcade.
Systems: TI-99/4a, Commodore Vic-20, Atari 2600, NES, SMS, GB, Neo Geo MVS (Big Red 4-slot), Genesis, SNES, 3DO, PS1, N64, DC, PS2, GBA, GCN, NDSi, Wii
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Yes, I thought I had to go north 1 screen, then west , then south then west. made sense to me. I didn't know that was supposed to be a maze, I thought it was last screen on the map as how its close to the end(1 screen before the end of the map). I thought it was like some sort of style , that there is no where to go after this point so you get right back where you were, as the other place with same style is on the other end of the map. If they made it in the middle I can at least understand its a maze.Limewater wrote:You thought "Go North, West, South, West in the Garden of Maze" referred to a dungeon instead of a maze?kingmohd84 wrote:I just figured out what that guy meant by west , south , north west, or whatever it was
I thought it was the instructions to get to the first dungeon, because I found it very early in the game.
My friend, its almost impossible to complete the game without the magical sword or the blue ring. It isn't like its a reward if you spent time discovering stuff. I went to dungeon 6 before 5 and it was impossible. I was going to quit the game, until I knew there was a magical sword and a blue ring.Limewater wrote:Nope. It was a challenge, but it was also quite fun. Playing the game like a checklist and using guides seriously saps most of the fun out of the game and makes it appear to be much more difficult than it actually is.kingmohd84 wrote:again I say
This Zelda was created when no internet, I believe even VHS was still new, no consoles were around, and people wanted highest bang for their buck, they say this as a challenge not as a game to have fun. Maybe like high scores in the arcade.
I did discover some of the stuff on my own, like the blue ring store, dungeons 1,3,6, and most hidden items in the dungeons, and I think all the maps and compasses . So i had a taste of that too, but once it turned impossible, its FAQ time.
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but see back when this game was released, most of us only got one new game once in a blue moon... you spent a lot of time on a game. So something like this with tons to explore and experiment with was rewarding. It wasn't a speed-trial to gun through the game just to hurry up and update your backloggery page.
