New laptop, better faster stronger...laggy?

[puke_face]

I saw a benchmark article in a pc magazine compare windows xp vista and the 7 beta version from 3 months ago.

and the buggy beta version of windows 7 had more frames per second on all games they tried, than the "complete" retail product that is vista.

ofc xp has still more fps, but the difference between xp and 7 wasn't as great as with vista.


so yeah I do believe it's vista that's effing up the guys emulators

I can't argue with that logic,

[BigTinz]

Because you have a celeron processor

The worst windows operating system ever created + the worst intel chip ever created = shitty performance.

Seriously though, you've got probably the most inefficient setup one could ask for(as far as gaming goes).

[RyaNtheSlayA]

I saw a benchmark article in a pc magazine compare windows xp vista and the 7 beta version from 3 months ago.

and the buggy beta version of windows 7 had more frames per second on all games they tried, than the "complete" retail product that is vista.

ofc xp has still more fps, but the difference between xp and 7 wasn't as great as with vista.


so yeah I do believe it's vista that's effing up the guys emulators

I can't argue with that logic,

There have been benches with SP1 Vista vs. SP2 XP and there is little to no frame difference. Some games (such as Doom 3) actually run better on Vista than XP while others (like Oblivion) run better on XP.

[noiseredux]

alright, now let's argue Mac Vs PC for a few pages.

[fast]

To stay off topic:
Had vista on my main desktop for a while, everything was ok until I plugged in my Palm Pilot and it crashed. No amount of different programs or driver tweaks could fix this. And since up until a couple weeks ago my Palm Pilot had a good bit of my life in it, well that made Vista worthless. Ironically the default setup supposedly works fine on 7.

To go back on topic:
Like other said, update the drivers. But if you want to clean house first. Malware Antibytes and CCcleaner can do wonders in safemode.

[gravitone]

You are probably running vista's aero interface on an intel integrated graphics chipset that is:
1. Really slow to begin with.
2. Hogging a large chunk of your RAM's available memory bandwidth.
3. Taxing your CPU for pixel/vertex shading and god knows what else because they are not implemented in the graphics chip.

The problem with all this is that VISTA uses your graphics chip to draw the complete windows interface. This requires a lot more then anything used upto XP which is pretty much just an accelerated framebuffer hogging a few measly MB's for a double buffered screen. Now its taking up computational power and graphics bandwidth that is available in any cheap DECENT graphics chip that can handle this with ease. Enough vertex/pixel shading power, dedicated GDDR video memory with plenty of bandwidth, etc. Intel onboard graphics chips lack all of the above.

The higher the resolution of your LCD the harder it is for your system to keep up and provide decent framerates.
And then there is the celeron issue. Since it lacks the cache, its performance will be poor at best to begin with.
Combine this with the CPU taxation by the graphics drivers, overtaxed memory bus, and Vista + probably some horribly bloated virus scanner and other "protection" software, and you have a system pretty much not suited for anything but Word processing and youtube.

Bottom line: CPU clockspeed says nothing about how fast a system is.
Do some research next time before taking flawed assumptions for granted and ending up with a piece of junk like this.
Good luck with your crappy uninformed purchase.

[MrPopo]

To go along with the Vista thing, are you running your emulators full screen or windowed? If they are full screen you can frequently get better performance, since Windows stops having to devote as many resources to non-active windows. If you're running windowed and Aero on the laptop you're describing that might be why things are going slower.

[Niode]

LOLLIPOPS! You are still using windows? Slackware Linux FTW!

Seriously though. I reckon you just don't have the latest video drivers. Find out what your display adaptor is and get the latest video drivers and see if that fixes it.

NB Celeron CPUs are the bottom of the pile but they still should run basic emulators (like zSNES or GENS, I had these running on a Celeron 440MHz without any slowdown over like 10 years ago) without masses of slowdown. It has to be a driver issue.

[marurun]

The worst windows operating system ever created + the worst intel chip ever created = shitty performance.

You seem to have forgotten about Windows 95, Windows ME, and the Pentium 4 line. *tsk tsk*

Celerons are indeed hamstrung CPUs, but they should still be faster than the last generation of chips at getting work done. And while Vista is a slower OS it's certainly not ass slow when you're using updated drivers and hardware.

If you bought a budget laptop (which it sounds like you did) and have many of Vista's features turned on (many are by default) I can see how emulators might stutter, particularly considering that the underlying code of most of the "old faithful" emulators is barely Windows code. Many of them are poor GUIs on top of essentially modern DOS code. Make sure you've got all your updates installed, turn down the GUI visual effects and animations, update your drivers, and play with compatibility mode. Even a cheap laptop with Vista should be able to run most emulators just fine.

[RyaNtheSlayA]

The worst windows operating system ever created + the worst intel chip ever created = shitty performance.

You seem to have forgotten about Windows 95, Windows ME, and the Pentium 4 line. *tsk tsk*

Celerons are indeed hamstrung CPUs, but they should still be faster than the last generation of chips at getting work done. And while Vista is a slower OS it's certainly not ass slow when you're using updated drivers and hardware.

If you bought a budget laptop (which it sounds like you did) and have many of Vista's features turned on (many are by default) I can see how emulators might stutter, particularly considering that the underlying code of most of the "old faithful" emulators is barely Windows code. Many of them are poor GUIs on top of essentially modern DOS code. Make sure you've got all your updates installed, turn down the GUI visual effects and animations, update your drivers, and play with compatibility mode. Even a cheap laptop with Vista should be able to run most emulators just fine.

Thank you. Got my feelings across perfectly.