The Wrestling Thread

[Markies]

I wasn't talking about The Rock's wrestling career.
I was talking about his movie career.

Hogan and The Rock are probably the only two wrestlers that almost everybody in the world knows. They actually transcended wrestling and moved into pop culture. Nobody outside of wrestling circles know who Roman Reigns is. Wrestling has become very niche and it is incredibly difficult to crossover.

Even when wrestling was at its peak, you had a couple of stars that crossed over for a little. Austin, Sting, Goldberg and Flair may have been the only ones to do that. But, you ask any young non wrestling fan nowadays and they probably would have no idea who any of those people were.

[marurun]

I didn't make the forum guidelines, but I read them. It says things like, "display a positive and friendly attitude," and "Be respectful of others' opinions." "This isn't grade school."

When you see a rules violation on the forums you should report it to a moderator, not pin on your sheriff’s badge and decide to patronize folks. And since I’m involved in the discussion, maybe report it to a mod who’s not me. Conflict of interest due to topic involvement can apply. I won’t be offended if you route around me. It isn’t my forum. Now we can stop dunking on the big bad ole Hulkster, as the point has been made.

[Reprise]

SooooOoooo.... Anyone watch night 1 of Summerslam?

Fun opener (once you skip through the initial 30 minutes of padding and advertisements that WWE is now famous for - question for the WWE fans: Why do you put up with that crap?) and then the women's tag match that followed it was also fun. Then everything takes a nosedive in terms of quality, but it was saved by a great main event between Gunther and Punk. As soon as Punk won I suspected the report and rumours that Seth's injury was a work in order to make a cash in at SS seem more shocking were true and we would witness a cash in. It didn't help that they let Punk's celebration go on for an extended period of time. It was a great moment regardless.

The main question leading into night 2 is whether Cena is now a face and if there will be a double turn with Cody turning heel. Or maybe it will all be a swerve. I expect the match to be ass regardless.

[prfsnl_gmr]

I did not, but I appreciate the update. That said, I did find several Summer Slam DVDs while I was out thrifting during my vacation, which caused me to wonder whether Summer Slam is REALLY North American pro wrestling’s premier event.

I know that, ostensibly, WrestleMania is the premier event, but looking back over the past few decades, has Summer Slam really been the better event? I feel like, with only a few exceptions, Summer Slam is always a better show each year than WrestleMania. Thoughts?

[Reprise]

I expect the match to be ass regardless.

Happy to be wrong on this. The match was fine. Good even. I also thought night 2 was much better overall.

Then they brought back Brock Lesnar, who is named in the sex trafficking lawsuit against Vince McMahon. Bold choice, but not really that bold in today's climate, I guess, given the population elected a predator as their President... Twice. I can't imagine why, mere hours before this show, that WWE would announce they will no longer be holding press events and taking questions after their PLEs... Pure coincidence, of course

I did not, but I appreciate the update. That said, I did find several Summer Slam DVDs while I was out thrifting during my vacation, which caused me to wonder whether Summer Slam is REALLY North American pro wrestling’s premier event.

I know that, ostensibly, WrestleMania is the premier event, but looking back over the past few decades, has Summer Slam really been the better event? I feel like, with only a few exceptions, Summer Slam is always a better show each year than WrestleMania. Thoughts?

I think Summerslam is often the better show, yeah. Actually, the more I think about it, there are probably more average and weak Manias than there are good ones, despite its reputation as the biggest wrestling show.

Summerslam feels like WWE's second biggest show and they often put on classic feuds and matches for the show. I have fond memories of many of the ones I watched growing up as a kid. 1992, 1994, 1998, 2000, 2001 and 2002 are my favourites from my childhood.

[Markies]

Remember what Triple H said this weekend. "Accusations are just accusations." Between him, Cena admitting that his heel turn has been awful and Cody's unwanted talk of AEW, they are not winning any favors regarding the Public Relations department. But, they don't care about the fans or even the wrestling as it is all about the money and celebrity involvement.

From what I have read online, Summerslam this year was total garbage. I didn't even realize it was happening this weekend as I heard nothing about it at all. And after reading the results, I immediately forgot about it.

Thankfully, the match of Kyle Fletch Vs. Dustin Rhodes on Collision made up for the entire weekend. That was a fantastic match.

So, Summerslam basically fixes or screws up what happens at Mania. Old School WWF basically took a break for the Summer as nothing really happens until Summerslam. Modern WWE has taken that approach as well.

If Wrestlemania was good, more than likely, Summerslam is terrible because they need to start setting up for next year's Wrestlemania.
If Wrestlemania was bad, more than likely, Summerslam is good because they are correcting the mistakes from months past.

Summerslam is their second biggest show, so it is the one with the most storyline changes or fixes. Now that Survivor Series has basically been forgotten to turn into just a big tag match, Summerslam is the only show worth paying attention to until the Royal Rumble.

[Reprise]

If Wrestlemania was good, more than likely, Summerslam is terrible because they need to start setting up for next year's Wrestlemania.
If Wrestlemania was bad, more than likely, Summerslam is good because they are correcting the mistakes from months past.

That's actually a really good point.

Thankfully, the match of Kyle Fletch Vs. Dustin Rhodes on Collision made up for the entire weekend. That was a fantastic match.

Seriously, Dustin is incredible considering his age. The man is a machine. I haven't watched Collision yet, but I heard it was a fantastic match (and episode in general).

[prfsnl_gmr]

Seriously, Dustin is incredible considering his age. The man is a machine. I haven't watched Collision yet, but I heard it was a fantastic match (and episode in general).

I’ve had the good fortune of seeing him perform live a few times. He’s just an absolute beast and so good in the ring. He was even better when I saw him in the 2020s than he was when I saw him in the 2010s and 1990s!

[RCBH928]

I always thought Royal Rumble is the biggest event after Wrestlemania, although its close with Summer Slam.

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Speaking of Hogan, Vince had Hogan main event 7/10 first wrestlemanias and involved in 2 others , no wonder people got fed up with him, vince milked him good

[Markies]

Seriously, Dustin is incredible considering his age. The man is a machine. I haven't watched Collision yet, but I heard it was a fantastic match (and episode in general).

Really sad about his double knee surgery. That man has truly turned his life around since his stint at TNA. And he also understands his veteran status, so he doesn't want too much of the spotlight and just wants to help the coworkers and company grow.

Reprise, are you going to Forbidden Door in London?? Obviously, it is not All In, but it still looks like a fantastic card!

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Also, seeing the obvious counter programming and all these awful things that WWE keeps doing just makes me dislike them even more.

There is this old saying in Wrestling and in business in general: When things are going good, you can do no wrong. When things are going bad, you can do no right.

It's amazing how the tide has turned recently because WWE was at such a "high". Now, however, they can keep tripping over themselves and can do absolutely nothing right.