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RCBH928 wrote:What Sony did with PS2 needs to be a business case study, being the weakest of the 3 and turning on top with the strongest library is amusing especially to think at that time graphics power was much more effective when make the decision of which console to own, the xbox also had a very solid library so it was not like its lacking in that area.
One of the things Sony did during that era was that the library for the PS2 had EVERYTHING in it. Granted, the GameCube and XBOX had really good libraries as well, but there are certain aspects of both where they are lacking. The PS2 had a ginormous library and a game for everybody.

Also, it dominated the JRPG scene of that generation. It made so much money in Japan on that fact alone. Add the fact that it was so cheap to make PS2 games and you had a console that just refused to die. In fact, it probably hindered the PS3 at the beginning because the PS2 kept hanging on. People didn't want to give that console up.

But, that was a fantastic generation. All three major consoles had so many exclusives that you could own all 3 and have some fantastic games on all of them. And that is not even mentioning the many cross platform games.
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The retro games on GOG.com seems to have a minimum of Win7, does that mean it won't work on XP or 98 or they just assume no one is running these OSs any more?
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A lot of GOG games are just DOS games bundled with DOSBox. I think you would have no problem running them in Windows 98 except the GOG installers won't work on an OS that old. If you installed the game on a modern OS and then copied the installed files over I expect you'd be able to run all the DOS based ones at least. I've run DOSBox on a Pentuim II.
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RCBH928 wrote:The retro games on GOG.com seems to have a minimum of Win7, does that mean it won't work on XP or 98 or they just assume no one is running these OSs any more?
It's more on the end of GOG is not willing to support people running old OSes. The market share for them is miniscule, so if you want to try and run GOG stuff on it you're own your own. Dosbox stuff is safest, but the older Windows releases frequently have changes made to them by GOG to run on modern systems which might not play nice on old systems.
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Their older releases tend to not be "restored" for newer windows as well. There seems to be quite a bit trouble with stuff like their now-removed Blade of Darkness, or Screamer 4x4.

I honestly will probably build a windows 95/98 machine for myself soon, or maybe XP? I want to be able to play with all 3 windows versions and their games. Fortunately dos and 3.1 are very easy to emulate, and people even made an archive of dos games already emulated.
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I thought GOG gave the original installation files of the games, so you literally can just put them on Win98 and play. Well, no biggie I was just wondering if I had a win98 machine will it work. I made my own assumptions that playing the game on original OS intended works better than the DOSboxed version for Win10.
Markies wrote: One of the things Sony did during that era was that the library for the PS2 had EVERYTHING in it. Granted, the GameCube and XBOX had really good libraries as well, but there are certain aspects of both where they are lacking. The PS2 had a ginormous library and a game for everybody..
But...did it have everything because Sony sold so many units, or because it had EVERYTHING then Sony sold so many units? chicken or egg problem eh? I am willing to bet they won on brand name alone "Playstation" compared to the new comer Xbox (mini-pc) and is gigantic-controller and the mini disc kiddy NGC. Surprised Xbox released with same MSRP as PS2, that should have been way more value.

I just looked up NGC MSRP and it was $200($292 FFI)...wow that should have really pushed its sales. Thats too cheap!
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RCBH928 wrote:I thought GOG gave the original installation files of the games, so you literally can just put them on Win98 and play. Well, no biggie I was just wondering if I had a win98 machine will it work. I made my own assumptions that playing the game on original OS intended works better than the DOSboxed version for Win10.
Not for all games. There's some wishes to have them include original install files though...

https://www.gog.com/wishlist/site/offer ... old_titles

https://www.gog.com/wishlist/site/iso_i ... s_as_bonus

https://www.gog.com/wishlist/site/for_d ... inal_files

https://www.gog.com/wishlist/site/to_ha ... _dos_games

https://www.gog.com/wishlist/site/image ... tion_media
RCBH928 wrote:But...did it have everything because Sony sold so many units, or because it had EVERYTHING then Sony sold so many units? chicken or egg problem eh? I am willing to bet they won on brand name alone "Playstation" compared to the new comer Xbox (mini-pc) and is gigantic-controller and the mini disc kiddy NGC. Surprised Xbox released with same MSRP as PS2, that should have been way more value.

I just looked up NGC MSRP and it was $200($292 FFI)...wow that should have really pushed its sales. Thats too cheap!
PS2 was backward compatible with PS1. Not just with the games, but with the controllers and memory cards as well. And it could load PS1 games faster. And it was a (at the time) cheap DVD player. And yes, the success and popularity of the PS1 had something to do with it. It's only competition was the Dreamcast, which it actually killed. The Gamecube and Xbox didn't come out for another year after the PS2. So during that first year, these factors made it a great success and the PS2 got a foothold. Xbox and GCN did well, and were great consoles, but in a way they were too little too late.
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I heard PS2 had issues with the launch, some console drought, you couldn't find one...something like that. Were people big on backward compatibility then? I remember the common ideology back then was out with the old and in with the new.
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I remember that it was a big deal that it was an affordable DVD player as well as a console. People held off buying a DVD player because this could do that as well and at a competitive price.
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Anapan wrote:I remember that it was a big deal that it was an affordable DVD player as well as a console. People held off buying a DVD player because this could do that as well and at a competitive price.
^ This. I knew a few people who didn't even game who just wanted it as a DVD player.
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