We live in the future....

Post by **ott0bot** » Thu Apr 24, 2008 8:55 pm

...and this is proof!!!

Ok it's not a game video, and it's take a while to download, but if you are interested in audio production or recording, this will blow you're mind!

EDIT: oops i typed the url code wrong, fixed it.

Post by **Mozgus** » Thu Apr 24, 2008 9:32 pm

That was...amazing. These are the kinds of groundbreaking evolutions that I wish would occur in video editing, but never seem to.

Post by **Droid party** » Fri Apr 25, 2008 6:14 am

Cool.

Post by **racketboy** » Fri Apr 25, 2008 7:27 am

Great -- now we can take even more talentless "musicians" and make them sound brilliant

Seriously though, this is pretty cool.

Post by **Ivo** » Fri Apr 25, 2008 11:58 am

racketboy wrote:Great -- now we can take even more talentless "musicians" and make them sound brilliant

Seriously though, this is pretty cool.

Requiring physical talent to create good music is fortunately becoming obsolete. I hated my classes of music in school were I was partially forced to play a recorder.
This requirement was an undesirable side effect of our technical limitations, in that the only musical instruments we could build required quite a lot of learning and skill to play (as they had to be mostly built on actual physical strings, or be based on air going through different pipes in multiples of harmonic lengths).

I have no qualms about having great music coming from people like Jarre, who probably doesn't know to play a real piano very well by now (I think he did use keyboards though). I have nothing against people playing the "real" instruments and mastering them to create great music, as long as they don't get snobbish against people composing good music on "fake" instruments. Plus, there is only so much you can do with real strings and wind instruments - electronic stuff is bound to be more versatile, right?

But I know next to nothing of music, so anyway

Ivo.

Post by **Ack** » Fri Apr 25, 2008 1:05 pm

Actually, the electronic keyboard is considered the second in terms of versatility. The electric guitar is actually considered the most versatile from what I've heard.

Plus it gives us movies like Electric Dragon 40,000 Volts.

Post by **ott0bot** » Fri Apr 25, 2008 1:20 pm

racketboy wrote:Great -- now we can take even more talentless "musicians" and make them sound brilliant

Seriously though, this is pretty cool.

I know what you mean. But it seems like talent has been optional for quite a while. Just listen to the radio, what the heck happened? On the plus side this gives more creative control to the producer and engineer and it's a really innovative tool for composition. But it's like how Maya or 3d studio max draws your in-bewteen frames for you now, all you need is key frames. It seems like cheating, but it'll really cool at the same time.

Post by **racketboy** » Fri Apr 25, 2008 1:35 pm

ott0bot wrote:
racketboy wrote:Great -- now we can take even more talentless "musicians" and make them sound brilliant

Seriously though, this is pretty cool.
Just listen to the radio, what the heck happened?

Actually, I haven't listed to the radio in a few years.
I try to forget it exists.

Post by **Mozgus** » Fri Apr 25, 2008 2:34 pm

racketboy wrote:Great -- now we can take even more talentless "musicians" and make them sound brilliant

Seriously though, this is pretty cool.

Ouch. I can only speak for myself, but I've never cared about the hard work behind the music. All I want is the end result, and I want it to sound good.

When I try to talk music with people, it becomes clear that there's a real problem in this industry: People don't care about the music. They care about the people behind it. And that sickens me. I'll try and talk about the actual sound and the emotions it makes me feel, and my partner will ramble on about names of the musicians, what they look like, what they wear, their beliefs, the hardships they went through to make it big, the crazy shit they do with their instruments, and any other bullshit celebrity gossip they can dig up. I fucking hate it.

I just don't care how much effort was put in a song. There's no way to gauge it. Some people make something beautiful in 1 take, some in 50 cuts. Some people can reproduce it on a stage, (based on footage I've seen online). Some people look like fucking talentless assclowns on stage. Hell, most of the music I listen to was made by a single person on a computer somewhere, and pictures of whom do not exist publicly.

I've never even been to a concert, so maybe I'm missing out on something magical. I just dont care to shell out absurd wads of money to see some strangers perform flawed renditions of perfect quality, finely tuned, studio recordings which I can comfortably listen to at home, without being surrounded by smelly aggressive skinheads. Yeah, aside from the game music, I tend to listen to genres that attract some real freaks.

Post by **ott0bot** » Fri Apr 25, 2008 2:44 pm

Mozgus wrote:
racketboy wrote:Great -- now we can take even more talentless "musicians" and make them sound brilliant

Seriously though, this is pretty cool.
Ouch. I can only speak for myself, but I've never cared about the hard work behind the music. All I want is the end result, and I want it to sound good.

When I try to talk music with people, it becomes clear that there's a real problem in this industry: People don't care about the music. They care about the people behind it. And that sickens me. I'll try and talk about the actual sound and the emotions it makes me feel, and my partner will ramble on about names of the musicians, what they look like, what they wear, their beliefs, the hardships they went through to make it big, the crazy shit they do with their instruments, and any other bullshit celebrity gossip they can dig up. I fucking hate it.

I just don't care how much effort was put in a song. There's no way to gauge it. Some people make something beautiful in 1 take, some in 50 cuts. Some people can reproduce it on a stage, (based on footage I've seen online). Some people look like fucking talentless assclowns on stage. Hell, most of the music I listen to was made by a single person on a computer somewhere, and pictures of whom do not exist publicly.

I've never even been to a concert, so maybe I'm missing out on something magical. I just dont care to shell out absurd wads of money to see some strangers perform flawed renditions of perfect quality, finely tuned, studio recordings which I can comfortably listen to at home, without being surrounded by smelly aggressive skinheads. Yeah, aside from the game music, I tend to listen to genres that attract some real freaks.

I tend to agree with you about the end product being all that really matters. But as far as live music goes, there are some awesome small venues where smelly aggresicve peolpe generally aren't a problem If you live close to Lawrence check out the Replay Lounge, it's a pinball bar. One of the best places ever and they have small shows now and then, mostly underground and metal stuff. I love a great live show, and sometimes it's better than the recording sound because they react with the crowd so well.