Xbox One

Post by **elmagicochrisg** » Mon Jun 10, 2013 10:54 pm

Luke wrote:HDMI cable(s) will be included with the console, yes? Please say yes.

At this point those cables have become so cheap it doesn't really matter...

Post by **Niode** » Mon Jun 10, 2013 11:29 pm

Wow. Just wow. £349 for PS4 is a HUGE kick in the nuts for Microsoft. You'd have to be clinically insane to buy an Xbone. The PS4 is faster, smaller, it's got better (in my opinion) exclusives, if you're a PS+ subscriber you get Drive Club and 3 indie games out of the box on day one. If you're not a PS+ subscriber then it's an extra £5 onto the initial expense if you so wish -no doubt retailers will be bundling that in at launch, you don't need a subscription to access all the features aside from 'premium' multiplayer experiences (whatever that means) and cloudsaves/gaming (understandable considering the infrastructure costs), no used game DRM, no online activations, no need to be online - at all. Where are the downsides? I just can't see any catches. Well played Sony, you've won back another customer.

Post by **emwearz** » Mon Jun 10, 2013 11:33 pm

Yeah, Sony made up all the lost ground from this Gen in a single announcement.

Microsoft need to drastically change there shit prior to launch or there is no chance I will pick on up at all.

Post by **DinnerX** » Mon Jun 10, 2013 11:56 pm

Niode wrote:Wow. Just wow. £349 for PS4 is a HUGE kick in the nuts for Microsoft. You'd have to be clinically insane to buy an Xbone. The PS4 is faster, smaller, it's got better (in my opinion) exclusives, if you're a PS+ subscriber you get Drive Club and 3 indie games out of the box on day one. If you're not a PS+ subscriber then it's an extra £5 onto the initial expense if you so wish -no doubt retailers will be bundling that in at launch, you don't need a subscription to access all the features aside from 'premium' multiplayer experiences (whatever that means) and cloudsaves/gaming (understandable considering the infrastructure costs), no used game DRM, no online activations, no need to be online - at all. Where are the downsides? I just can't see any catches. Well played Sony, you've won back another customer.

Nightmare Sasha · Post by **Sasha_Blue** » Tue Jun 11, 2013 1:18 am

Niode wrote:Wow. Just wow. £349 for PS4 is a HUGE kick in the nuts for Microsoft. You'd have to be clinically insane to buy an Xbone. The PS4 is faster, smaller, it's got better (in my opinion) exclusives, if you're a PS+ subscriber you get Drive Club and 3 indie games out of the box on day one. If you're not a PS+ subscriber then it's an extra £5 onto the initial expense if you so wish -no doubt retailers will be bundling that in at launch, you don't need a subscription to access all the features aside from 'premium' multiplayer experiences (whatever that means) and cloudsaves/gaming (understandable considering the infrastructure costs), no used game DRM, no online activations, no need to be online - at all. Where are the downsides? I just can't see any catches. Well played Sony, you've won back another customer.

^This

The only downside is the online pass for some games but other than that, Sony has a lot more to offer. Xbox is done for, period. Game over man! Game over! Xbox has lost before it even started. Good bye Xbox, your first console was awesome, you second console was meh.

Post by **TheRev** » Tue Jun 11, 2013 3:19 am

I still love the 360.

I'm REALLY disappointed that Killer Instinct is XBOX One Exclusive but when Microsoft dumps all it's developers and leaves the console race I'm sure KI will end up on PS4.

Website · Post by **BogusMeatFactory** » Tue Jun 11, 2013 6:40 am

Niode wrote:no used game DRM, no online activations, no need to be online - at all. Where are the downsides? I just can't see any catches. Well played Sony, you've won back another customer.

No IMPOSED used game DRM. Sony still stated a few weeks ago that they are leaving that up to the publishers. You are still going to see it from big publishers who want that.

Post by **ZenErik** » Tue Jun 11, 2013 7:01 am

Yea. I fully expect used games from certain major publishers to have some sort of DRM scheme. Will be glad if I am wrong. We shall see.

Post by **elmagicochrisg** » Tue Jun 11, 2013 7:20 am

Official PlayStation Used Game Instructional Video

Post by **brunoafh** » Tue Jun 11, 2013 7:31 am

BogusMeatFactory wrote:No IMPOSED used game DRM. Sony still stated a few weeks ago that they are leaving that up to the publishers. You are still going to see it from big publishers who want that.

Wanting a cut of used game sales is something we've known publishers were after for awhile. Really, that started with games on PS3/360 already with the online passes, so it is really nothing new and more or less to be expected. But the console itself not forcing DRM (or constant online access) does something very important, it sets precedent. Which is great. Microsoft's shady policies don't get to become the norm now. Maybe that will change in the future, but for now, Sony has more or less saved the console market from taking a massive step in the "screw the consumer" direction. At least one more span of non-invasive competent gaming consoles on the market.

Not that that is going to stop the average buyer or random CoD gamer from just buying the new Xbox because they had a 360 and don't want to buy foreign, but it will definitely open the eyes of people that do the research and see how much of a joke Mircosoft's machine is.

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