Unexpectedly hard games

[Forlorn Drifter]

This doesn't apply to many games, but the "hard" modes on some games, especially newer ones, can be absolutely brutal if you aren't really good at that specific game. I know others may not agree with this sentiment, but I think of something like Dishonored, where getting detected on Hard or Insane (I think that's what the highest difficulty was called) could pretty much automatically mean death. Also arguably something along the lines of the Insane mode in Gears of War. Specifically the original.

Though how that compares to games in the Nintendo hard area is really going to depend on the player.

[Luke]

Aren't most Disney licensed games "made for kids" pretty darned difficult?

Aladdin in the snes is a cakewalk, but even QuackShot could be a pain.

[Gamerforlife]

I can't imagine fighting those optional Final Fantasy bosses. I could beat like 50 Atari games in the time it takes. As if JRPGs weren't long enough already. I never even attempted the "Weapons" in part VII. That game was tedious enough without some extra shit tacked on.

They didn't really get too ridiculous until Final Fantasy VIII. Emerald you had a set time limit you could easily beat it under, and Ruby required you to load up one question and just get lucky at the start. After that, he wasn't that hard.

If you did good at the Triple Triad card game in FFVIII, you could get items that literally made you invincible, making the optional bosses a joke

Really, FF XII is an anomaly among modern FF games. NONE of them are as hardcore as that particular installment

I'm not sure if maybe it was the MMORPG influence that made them design such a demanding game.

[Ack]

If you did good at the Triple Triad card game in FFVIII, you could get items that literally made you invincible, making the optional bosses a joke

Yeah, you could do it to the final boss too. I got through it without getting hit. Easiest final battle in any FF game ever, and I've cheesed quite a few of them.

[MrPopo]

If you did good at the Triple Triad card game in FFVIII, you could get items that literally made you invincible, making the optional bosses a joke

Yeah, you could do it to the final boss too. I got through it without getting hit. Easiest final battle in any FF game ever, and I've cheesed quite a few of them.

My first time through FFVIII I did a solo Squall run and spent most of it at low health so I could spam limits for every attack. Thanks to Triple Triad and Card Mod it still was a cake walk. I think things got hard when I was forced to heal and needed to get my health low again for limit spamming.

[dunpeal2064]

Really, FF XII is an anomaly among modern FF games. NONE of them are as hardcore as that particular installment

XIII has some pretty damn rough fights. None as early in the game as the Ancient Wurm (Thing came out of nowhere), but near the end of the game some of the required fights are very mean

[Gamerforlife]

Really, FF XII is an anomaly among modern FF games. NONE of them are as hardcore as that particular installment

XIII has some pretty damn rough fights. None as early in the game as the Ancient Wurm (Thing came out of nowhere), but near the end of the game some of the required fights are very mean

Oh yeah, don't get me wrong. I've got Platinums in each of the Final Fantasy X III trilogy of games, and there was some pretty damn hard fights, but I actually ENJOYED those. Some of the harder fights in FF XII were just tedious and annoying. That's not a knock on FF XII as a whole though, it's a great game. Just some of the optional challenges were really unreasonable.

Thoses FF XII bosses...geez, it's like someone read about some of those epic battles you read about in myths and legends that went on for hours and thought, "we need to do that in a video game!"

I'm a HUGE fan of FF XIII's combat system, so while some of the late game bosses were pretty cheap, I still enjoyed fighting them.

[samsonlonghair]

Aren't most Disney licensed games "made for kids" pretty darned difficult?

Aladdin in the snes is a cakewalk, but even QuackShot could be a pain.

Jungle Book for Genesis starts easy, but by the time you make it to the King Louie boss fight things get really intense.