The Walking Dead tv series

[Luke]

Characters die. And it's not like he was the first major character they killed off. You're not making any sense.

In fact, major characters dying is pretty common in TV now. I can tell you right now, you should probably stop watching Sons of Anarchy is you're sensitive to that sort of thing. And don't EVER watch Game of Thrones.

You're not making any sense.

I was talking about the comic and you're talking about the show. Apples and oranges.

And you should use spoiler tags as I had no clue that characters ever died on tv shows. Must be a new thing But thanks for the insight.

[Jrecee]

Structurally, I loved the components of the most recent episodic. Unfortunately, it yet again fell into the trap of being too on the nose with its underlying themes.

I was getting Burn Notice flashbacks in all the segments with Glenn and his "untrained" compatriots. Making our heroes better than usual and the Alexandria civilians dumber than average to drive home the point that our guys know what they're doing.

Then doing more or less the same thing with Abraham. Our heroes are badass! Alexandrians are cowards!

Carol has certainly faced dramatic changes, but from the prison storyline, to the Carol/Tyreese story, she's never been so cold-blooded towards children. Sure it was fun seeing threats against the kid last week. But her recent kitchen antics didn't make much sense.

Then we had the setup of the wife beater, which nicely goes along with Carol's past, but the overly blunt "You're gonna have to kill him" angle seemed like episode ending bait more than logic. And of course, the dad had to be a complete and utter ass in the vein of Carol's husband, Merle, and Rita's ex from Dexter.

I was slightly unclear on the whole revolving door thing too. Was that door spinning both directions? It seemed like an awesome opportunity where a choice has to be made. If one side gets out, the other side goes to the zombies, but that wasn't what was happening from what I could tell.

A+ on the Priest's turn though. The character has been a no go for me since the beginning, with very little additional interest coming from the reveal of what he did to his parishioners. But now it's clear how self-obsessed he is. Though the bible cold open didn't do anything for me.

[SpaceBooger]

Carol has certainly faced dramatic changes, but from the prison storyline, to the Carol/Tyreese story, she's never been so cold-blooded towards children. Sure it was fun seeing threats against the kid last week. But her recent kitchen antics didn't make much sense.

Then we had the setup of the wife beater, which nicely goes along with Carol's past, but the overly blunt "You're gonna have to kill him" angle seemed like episode ending bait more than logic. And of course, the dad had to be a complete and utter ass in the vein of Carol's husband, Merle, and Rita's ex from Dexter.

I can't help but think

that that DR dude is not beating his wife and Carol is wrong. If Rick acts on Carol's hunch and she is wrong added to Glen and Abraham's take on how weak and cowardly the people are could lead to fighting between the towns folk and Rick's group. This mini revolution may make Alexandria a nice target for the folks carving into zombie heads.

[stickem]

good episode. i'm enjoying this storyline so far. with the preacher looking like he's on his way out, we're gonna need a new black guy. like maybe morgan, unless he's still carving upside down m's in peoples foreheads. and everytime glenn kicks the shit out of somebody i laugh. shit, carol could beat glenns ass lol.

[Luke]

We're gonna need a new black guy.

No clue why this made me laugh out loud, but boy did it ever.

I just picture a bunch of white dudes in different scenarios saying it. Like at a motorcycle club the Pres saying "We're gonna need a new black guy". Or at a Congress meeting, "We're gonna need a new black guy". Or at a writer's meeting at SNL "We're gonna need a new black guy".

[retrosportsgamer]

I was getting Burn Notice flashbacks in all the segments with Glenn and his "untrained" compatriots. Making our heroes better than usual and the Alexandria civilians dumber than average to drive home the point that our guys know what they're doing.

Then doing more or less the same thing with Abraham. Our heroes are badass! Alexandrians are cowards!

The problem with this also is trying to reconcile how they've survived for so long (the Alexandrians). I *thought* they made a comment about how the entire area was evacuated, hence a lack of hoards of zombies that were more frequent in the south. This is a trap they fall into the further along the show goes as everyone they encounter at this point should be pretty bad-ass.

[Pulsar_t]

I want TWD's isolated score dammit!

[brunoafh]

Barbarically killing off a love character to sell more issues shows no teeth. It was petty as you could possibly get. It would be like sex & The City killing off Samantha because they didn't know what the shit to do to make more money. It was one f the biggest "Fuck you, we're out of ideas" situations I've ever experienced in writing, and I'm not even emotionally attached to Glen.

I hate to agree with Gamerforlife, but there's a first time for everything.

The Walking Dead is a post-apocalyptic zombie series, people being brutally killed by zombies is essentially the main draw of the entire genre since forever. Comparing it to Sex and the City is asinine, of course in that instance it would be ridiculous. But for a zombie series it's entirely normal in context. Killing Glenn in particular took some gigantic balls and was a rather harrowing experience. Probably one of the only times I've winced at a comic. I seriously doubt this was the most heinous case of bad writing that you've witnessed. And in both the TV show, and the comic, main characters are brutally killed. So it's not even like a rare case or anything, at all.

[Luke]

The Walking Dead is a post-apocalyptic zombie series, people being brutally killed by zombies is essentially the main draw of the entire genre since forever. Comparing it to Sex and the City is asinine, of course in that instance it would be ridiculous. But for a zombie series it's entirely normal in context. Killing Glenn in particular took some gigantic balls and was a rather harrowing experience. Probably one of the only times I've winced at a comic. I seriously doubt this was the most heinous case of bad writing that you've witnessed. And in both the TV show, and the comic, main characters are brutally killed. So it's not even like a rare case or anything, at all.

Never said it was a rare case, and comparing a fictional series to a fictional series is not asinine. They're both fun but silly stories, and both popular phenomenons.

Let me spell it out since you guys are reading between the lines: It's not THAT they killed Glen in a brutal way, it's WHY they killed Glen and turned his face into sloppy joe. For a comic that was losing it's sales, it killed off Glen because they were flat out of ideas and wanted something for people to talk about. It's the death of Mary Jane so to speak. It didn't move the story along and felt cheap. And it was all marketing and no story. That's why it was so stupid. It was episode #100 and they wanted to make it special (as does ever comic that has the number 100 on it) and they took the easy way out.

Has nothing to do with attachment to Glen, as I have none. It pissed me off because it was shit story telling. It was only there for shock value and was executed poorly. And TWD was so well written and made the brutality count when it drove the story. Say, when the Governor woke up with his penis nailed to the floor. It wasn't brutal for the sake of it, nor was it shocking just for shock value, it carried over the story of Michonne and established the nature of her character.

Fine, kill Glen. But do it for a reason other than to sell some comics.

[Luke]

Kind of sad to see that Rick didn't mop the floor with that wiener.