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Jrecee wrote:http://ps3.ign.com/dor/articles/1015007/gc-2009-ps3-slim-and-price-drop-announced/videos/gcom09_ps3slim_opening_081609.html

First of all. . . not much shrinkage. At least not compared to how much the slim versions of ps1 and ps2 shrunk down from their originals.

Second. . . NO COMPONENT CABLES? Wtf? Has this always been the case with the ps3? No HDMI is one thing but a system that is based around an HD format doesn't come with a way to plug straight into an hdtv?

The point of it coming with a composite cable instead of a component cable is to guarantee compatibility for 99.9% of users (excluding RF users) to be able to hook it up straight out of the box.

futuramaguy42 wrote:Well I definitely want a PS3, the choice is whether to get the $299 phat or the slim for the same price. Some people have concerns that it may have overheating issues, and others think it may have a higher failure rate. I only have the original PS2 and original PSX so I don't know how the slim versions are.

Any suggestions on which I should get? I guess the Uncharted 160 gig $399 bundle is also a option, though it doesn't seem like the best one.

Considering Uncharted is now $30, I wouldn't go that route. I guess it just comes down to whether you want slim or not. Also, in the less than 1% chance that you are interested, the PS3 Slim does not support a Linux partition, for whatever reason.

Hard-drive size is going to be the kicker for most I suppose, but 120 GB is still too low. I'd recommend you replace the hard-drive with at least a 250 GB, regardless of which model you pick up.

Yeah, there's never been component cables in a PS3 bundle as far as I know.

And on the 120 GB limit, I still haven't filled up my 60GB and I've had it for almost two years now. And yes, I do install all my games when given the option and haven't deleted any of the installs yet.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp ... 8005635152

WOOHOO! Thinking about buying an 80GB tomorrow

MrPopo wrote:Yeah, there's never been component cables in a PS3 bundle as far as I know.

And on the 120 GB limit, I still haven't filled up my 60GB and I've had it for almost two years now. And yes, I do install all my games when given the option and haven't deleted any of the installs yet.

I guess it depends on the user. I've personally got about 50 PSN/PSone Classics on my hard-drive, so yeah...

Jrecee wrote:Second. . . NO COMPONENT CABLES? Wtf? Has this always been the case with the ps3? No HDMI is one thing but a system that is based around an HD format doesn't come with a way to plug straight into an hdtv?

Yep you don't even get an RGB cable in Europe. It's a shit composite cable and that's your lot. At least the old 360 used to come with a combination component/composite cable. It wouldn't be hard for Sony to bundle in a combination component/composite cable, but they don't, simply to cut corners.

I couldn't believe it when I opened my PS3 and saw that the only cable in there was the same shitty cable from the PS2. I was literally amazed.

120GB should be enough for most people unless you start downloading retail games on the thing (whoever does that must be an absolute nut-job considering they're cheaper in a real store and you get more product for your money) or download every single demo in sight. Even then you will still struggle to fill that space if you had every single retail game that installed itself and quite a sizeable PSN collection. I've got a 40GB and I'm only using 17GB and I've got quite a few PSN titles and I've never uninstalled any game that's installed itself.

I suppose if you get really compulsive about your Rock Band downloads you can fill things up. Last night I found I was close to the 8 GB mark on my RB data file (when most game installs are 4 GB or less) and I'm only downloading the quality stuff; classic rock.

Mod_Man_Extreme wrote:The point of it coming with a composite cable instead of a component cable is to guarantee compatibility for 99.9% of users (excluding RF users) to be able to hook it up straight out of the box.

My 360 came with a composite/component combination cable.

Here is Sony's reason for no backwards compatibility:

"We do know that there are next gen consumers wanting to come over the the PS3. Most of those are consumers who have not utilized their PS2 for a little while and they're ready to jump into the PlayStation 3"
http://kotaku.com/5340337/sony-explains-why-the-ps3-slim-has-no-backwards-compatibility

They say research shows that those who have purchased PS3s play mostly PS3 games... well thats because those who haven't purchased one (like me) are still playing their PS2s!

SpaceBooger wrote:Here is Sony's reason for no backwards compatibility:

"We do know that there are next gen consumers wanting to come over the the PS3. Most of those are consumers who have not utilized their PS2 for a little while and they're ready to jump into the PlayStation 3"
http://kotaku.com/5340337/sony-explains-why-the-ps3-slim-has-no-backwards-compatibility

They say research shows that those who have purchased PS3s play mostly PS3 games... well thats because those who haven't purchased one (like me) are still playing their PS2s!

Haha yeah, no shit. Maybe the reason the people who are playing their PS3s are playing mostly PS3 games is because only 25% (i'm guessing) of the userbase have backwards compatible PS3s. Way to go Captain Obvious there Sony.