You all win. (I'm finally getting a Dreamcast)

[noiseredux]

I thought of that too. It'd be nice to actually see some physical shmup releases on PS3.

[FiftyDollarCurse]

it mostly appeals to me because it has a lot of shmups.

Like I said. Shallow. Like shmups are.

Not bad or less worthy mind you, just not interesting in the slightest.

To me.

[swiftzx]

Congrats Noise! Don't forget the fighters on the console And Lisalover, I love the Dreamcast controller; IMO it is miles better than the ps controller. My hands don't cramp while holding a Dreamcast controller and my thumbs are not being stabbed w/ a Dreamcast controller; both problems for me w/ a PS controller.

[pepharytheworm]

The real winner is noise, for finally getting a dreamcast.

[Betamax001]

Congrats Noise. Dreamcast is a great system. Chances are, you will find SOMETHING that you will like. The controller IMO opinion is OK. There is a 3rd party controller by MadCatz that is pretty confortable for my hands, though the DPad is just ok. It does have 6 face buttons which makes it alright for Street Fighter, though if you are getting an Agetec stick, you might not care. http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Dreamcast-O ... 1e64151491 Here is a link to a new one on eBay. They come in a bunch of colours. I would see if a local store has one that you can hold/test out first to see if you like it or not.

Also, for those expensive games, I would recommend burning a copy to make sure you like it or not. It also makes playing imports easy. I have tons of burned import games and I don't have to insert a boot disc.

[Jmenglan]

Don't forget about that awesome dark stalkers compilation that came out also. Now you can have three different versions of morrigan haha

[Bradtemple87]

Wonderful decision

[Original_Name]

Jeez, I'm not used to seeing the Dreamcast get slagged in this corner of the internet, but it seems like I see more and more complaints about it lately. People talking about feeling like it gets shoved down their throats in the retro community is understandable, but you guys have to realize that only a couple of years ago it was a solid pick for "most underrated console ever" (I still would have given that honor to the Sega Saturn or PC-Engine even back then, though). Plus I think its often taken out of context amongst people who posthumously got into the console -- the console only had a two-year commercial lifespan, folks. The console may not be for you, but objectively-speaking, I don't think anyone could think of a better two-year-run on any other console. For all the "shallow" games, there are plenty of lasting, intricate experiences. The Dreamcast also has a knack for fitting the conceptual scope of more indulgent games into the brevity of arcade action titles, which is fascinating to look at if you're interested in conceptual design in games.

Anyway, CONGRATULATIONS, NOISE! You're saying you're getting into it mostly for shmups and homebrew, but there are a ton of Dreamcast games I think everyone should try, regardless of personal taste. Rez, Shenmue, Ikaruga, Skies of Arcadia, Jet Set Radio, Samba de Amigo, Cosmic Smash, Virtual On: Oratorio Tangram, The Typing of the Dead, Power Stone 2, and Ecco the Dolphin: Defender of the Future are all fantastic games, although you may not be into all of them, there's so much variety there that the ones that grab you will really grab you. Unsung classics like Toy Commander and Lack of Love are great to keep an eye out for. You've got to develop an appreciation for the strange, but you'll be fascinated by how fun a game like Sega Marine Fishing, for instance, can be if you throw your inhibitions away. Once I've become good enough at Japanese, I can't wait to sink my teeth into the likes of Segagaga, Rent-a-Hero, Roommania, and Sakura Taisen 3.

The only fault I can find with the Dreamcast is that so many of its best games ended up getting converted into exclusives for other titles during Sega's shift to third-party. Panzer Dragoon Orta, Virtua Fighter 4, Super Monkey Ball, Jet Set Radio Future, GunValkyrie, The House of the Dead 3, and Shinobi all have their rightful home on the Dreamcast. Plus planned Dreamcast games like Air NiGHTS, Shining Force IV, and Thunder Force VI all ended up being changed beyond recognition during their convoluted development histories. That is to say that people who find the library small have no one to blame but themselves for not keeping the Dreamcast afloat longer.

[final fight cd]

I want to love the DreamCast. I really, really do. I love the Master System, the Genesis, the Saturn and even the damn Sega CD and Game Gear. But the DreamCast. I'd love to join the cult that has formed around it's grave but I can't shake the feeling that so many of it's "best" game are just... shallow.

i feel the same way. i have a dreamcast but sold all of my games. whenever i go out game hunting i always stop at look at the used dreamcast games but they all look like awful 3D games. the only reason i am still keeping my dreamcast is in case i ever find/choose to buy giga wing, bangio, or a dreamcast keyboard for typing of the dead.

besides giga wing and bangio, are there any other US shmups?

[dunpeal2064]

Gunbird 2

Why avoid the imports though?