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Re: Nintendo: Project Cafe - Wii U

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 12:26 pm
by Inazuma
Jamisonia wrote:
Inazuma wrote:32 gig SD card. Problem solved. Much better than an HDD. I hate old style hard drives because they break too easily.



The problem with that is this:

SanDisk 32GB SDHC Card: $51.70

http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Standard- ... 981&sr=8-5

Western Digital 500GB 2.5 in. HDD: $54.99

http://www.amazon.com/Western-Digital-S ... 089&sr=1-1

You get way more space for the same amount of money. Obviously Nintendo wouldn't be paying retail prices, but I bet their prices are proportional.

You get what you pay for. I would prefer paying more for a superior product, personally. Also, you shouldn't need more than 32 gigs anyway, unless Nintendo starts doing lots of DLC.

Hmm, since the Wii U is gonna have XBOX 360 style games on it, I guess it's possible they will have DLC. Nintendo 1st party titles better not have DLC, or I'm gonna be upset.

Re: Nintendo: Project Cafe - Wii U

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 12:29 pm
by Opa Opa
Inazuma wrote:Nintendo 1st party titles better not have DLC, or I'm gonna be upset.

Didn't they already have DLC with Animal Crossing Wii?

Re: Nintendo: Project Cafe - Wii U

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 12:31 pm
by fastbilly1
Inazuma wrote:You get what you pay for. I would prefer paying more for a superior product, personally. Also, you shouldn't need more than 32 gigs anyway, unless Nintendo starts doing lots of DLC.


But flash memory is not a superior product. It has faster read/write speeds but that comes with a smaller size, higher price, and a much shorter lifetime to it. Many companies state 10,000 cycles before it starts to get flaky. Lord knows when I had to use a jumpdrive every day for work I would burn through one in six months before it started to CRC files.

Re: Nintendo: Project Cafe - Wii U

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 1:58 pm
by isiolia
fastbilly1 wrote:
Inazuma wrote:You get what you pay for. I would prefer paying more for a superior product, personally. Also, you shouldn't need more than 32 gigs anyway, unless Nintendo starts doing lots of DLC.


But flash memory is not a superior product. It has faster read/write speeds but that comes with a smaller size, higher price, and a much shorter lifetime to it. Many companies state 10,000 cycles before it starts to get flaky. Lord knows when I had to use a jumpdrive every day for work I would burn through one in six months before it started to CRC files.


Yep. I've got a few dead USB sticks on my desk, not to mention ones from users. SSDs are designed to rotate through memory to keep read/write cycles to a minimum.

'course, I can build a little mini fort on my desk with failed HDDs...so...neither is perfect.

Re: Nintendo: Project Cafe - Wii U

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 2:15 pm
by eskil
Inazuma wrote:You get what you pay for. I would prefer paying more for a superior product, personally.

Honestly, that sounds like bull. You can't compare SDDs and HDDs because their completely different products. Different strokes for different, well, applications. So I don't see how you could label either as a "superior product".

Re: Nintendo: Project Cafe - Wii U

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 2:47 pm
by Inazuma
eskil wrote:
Inazuma wrote:You get what you pay for. I would prefer paying more for a superior product, personally.

Honestly, that sounds like bull. You can't compare SDDs and HDDs because their completely different products. Different strokes for different, well, applications. So I don't see how you could label either as a "superior product".

I got a new PC a few months ago and went with an SSD for my OS and programs. I have all my porn on a regular HDD.

It's so fast. I love how fast the PC boots up, shuts down and loads programs. When I first boot up the pc, I start up about 4 or 5 programs at the same time and they all load instantly. Dungeon Fighter Online loads everything very fast too, which is great. Everything just works so well on SSD.

Then when I go to watch a video or something from my HDD, it feels so slow and horrible, not to mention it is very loud compared to the completely silent SSD. I can't wait for SSDs to get higher storage and cheaper prices, so I can stop using HDDs in my computers.

Re: Nintendo: Project Cafe - Wii U

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 3:20 pm
by isiolia
SSDs are a fair comparison to HDDs because they basically fit where a HDD would fit. They're great for some things, terrible for others (like cost/GB).

SD cards, however, are not SSDs.

Re: Nintendo: Project Cafe - Wii U

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 3:36 pm
by Inazuma
isiolia wrote:SSDs are a fair comparison to HDDs because they basically fit where a HDD would fit. They're great for some things, terrible for others (like cost/GB).

SD cards, however, are not SSDs.

I figured they used the same technology and would be pretty much the same. I have used SD cards and flash thumb drives and everything seemed to work fine.

Re: Nintendo: Project Cafe - Wii U

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 3:51 pm
by fastbilly1
Read speed of an SDHC card = 2MBps to 10MBps (depending on class)
Read speed of an average SDD drive = 200MBps

Re: Nintendo: Project Cafe - Wii U

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 3:56 pm
by Inazuma
fastbilly1 wrote:Read speed of an SDHC card = 2MBps to 10MBps (depending on class)
Read speed of an average SDD drive = 200MBps

Well, it should be fast enough for save data. Hopefully the slow speeds of SD cards prevent the Wii U from having DLC.