alcohol/drug stance

[NeoRage]

"Users are losers! Users are losers!"
- Rod & Todd Flanders

[ZeroAX]

I'm going to say while I myself don't smoke (normal cigaretes sold legally) I have a sister and a few more relatives that do. They started with just 1 or 2 smokes a day and now can smoke a pack per day. I've seen worse (heard of people doing 2 packs a day when they don't have to go to work). And that's how addictive things work unfortunetly. Today you might be able to control it but tommorow you might not. But if you insist do as much drugs as you like. Just don't go regreting anything when your life turns to shit.

[lordofduct]

I'm going to say while I myself don't smoke (normal cigaretes sold legally) I have a sister and a few more relatives that do. They started with just 1 or 2 smokes a day and now can smoke a pack per day. I've seen worse (heard of people doing 2 packs a day when they don't have to go to work). And that's how addictive things work unfortunetly. Today you might be able to control it but tommorow you might not. But if you insist do as much drugs as you like. Just don't go regreting anything when your life turns to shit.

Hahaha, the one of two drugs I still do.

Smoke 2 packs a day and drink a bottle of vodka a week. Ahhhh, turning out just like dad.


I will say, I hope no one wants to be like me. Which I'm sure no one does.

[disorderlyvision]

Seriously to jump to the conclusion I'm an idiot because I 'did' drugs, or Hatta as well. That is pigeonholing as well. You have no idea about the level of our intelligence, and intelligent people can still make bad choices.

Wasn't aimed at you mate. You accepted it as a mistake. But saying it wasn't a mistake is ostrich mentality.

http://www.mcwilliams.com/books/books/aint/toc.htm posted again just for you

ZeroAx i urge you to read the e-book i posted earlier. you are coming off as a very narrowminded and uninformed person. I am losing a lot of respect for you. coming on here and bashing people when you don't have a clue. the government has no business telling people what they can ingest into their bodies. all they are doing is legislating morality. Morals are subjective. everyone has a different set of morals. trying to force your morals on somone else is fascist. If you don't want to do drugs that is your own personal choice. others can make the choice to responsibly use drugs, and still be productive members of society. some people like to have a drink after work, i like to smoke a joint. whats the fucking difference. I am 27 now and have smoked pot for over 10 years. despite your beliefs i am not a worthless pile of shit. I managed to get my B.S. degree while making the deans list and national honors society. I am now enrolled in a masters program with a 3.5 gpa. assholes like your are the reason that prisons are overcrowded. America has more people incarcerated than any other nation in the world, and it is because of people and the government not minding their own fucking business. not only drugs, i think gambling, prostitution, and the like should all be legalized. they hurt noone, except perhaps the person partaking in the activity. it is legislated morality and an attack on our civil liberties and constitutional freedoms. I smoke pot, so what! perhaps my lungs are a little blacker than yours, but you are no fucking better than me, or anyone else on here so get off your high horse.

[disorderlyvision]

I'm going to say while I myself don't smoke (normal cigaretes sold legally) I have a sister and a few more relatives that do. They started with just 1 or 2 smokes a day and now can smoke a pack per day. I've seen worse (heard of people doing 2 packs a day when they don't have to go to work). And that's how addictive things work unfortunetly. Today you might be able to control it but tommorow you might not. But if you insist do as much drugs as you like. Just don't go regreting anything when your life turns to shit.

and ciggarettes are more addictive than heroin, so why do you suppose it is legal? other drugs are not illegal for health reasons. they are illegal for moral/religious reasons. tobbacco just happens to make the gov a lot of money so it stays acceptable.

[ZeroAX]

Sorry but I don't have the time to read that entire piece. And before you go talking about other addicitons being legal since I don't do any of that stuff I think I have the right to be against all of them. Just do whatever you want mate. As you said it's your body. But it's also my right to be against it. And I guess ciggarets are legal because a high dossage can't kill you like drugs (yeah it kills you over time but I guess not in one shot). Though I know a kind of drug is "healthier" than cigarettes but I don't know what it's called in English (I think it's legal in some places actually). Anyway point is EVERY adiction is bad for you. Drugs/smoking/drinking/eating/INTERNET (I'm willing to bet half the internet's userbase is adicted to it and will laugh you off if you tell them). Yeah if you can control drugs you can avoid having problems with your personal life. But as I said before the thing with addictions is that they can't be controlled. The smoke example I think proved that (started from 1-2 smokes a day to 1 pack a day). It's just when you have seen people you know, having their lifes destroyed you're going to be biased against it. And as I told you one big dose can kill you (don't know if that's true for all drugs please correct me on this one if you have the knowledge). But there's a difference between it's your right to do drugs and saying it's the best thing in the world. Some people get turned on by hitting their girl when they are having sex with her. She might allow it. And it's her body she has the right to do whatever she likes with it. But can you just stand aside and let that? Or black people didn't do a mass revolution against their opressors when they were treated as slaves (ok I'm not sure about that but at least that's what I remember from the few years I did in american schools. Don't know if your history is biased). And people at the time didn't know better (well actually it was to their advantage to have slaves.) would you still stand by today? (yeah the examples are a bit extreme I know but it's the best I could come up with) .It is your right to do drugs. But please understand why most people dislike them. I don't treat drug users as criminals. But I still think their lives would be better off without them. And yeah to tell you the truth I believe drugs should be legal, so drug dealers don't take advantage of the people who are addicted. Also I think heroine is pretty cheap to make and I'm not sure if it's an urban legend or not but I think in one of the scandinavian countrys they give heroin to people who are registered drug users. So drug dealers don't make tons of money off people in need and the state makes sure that the users don't overdose themselfs. Yeah I'd agree with something like that. Though it takes a quite open minded society for something like that.

[glynnahab]

Sorry but I don't have the time to read that entire piece...

No offense, dude, but you followed this sentence with a rather large post that is actually more unreadable than any of those before it.

Paragraphs work wonders, my friend.

As for my own take on the topic.... I enjoy all forms of chemical enhancements sparingly. I'll smoke pot every now and then. I had a lot of fun with LSD, cocaine, etc. I just don't do it as excessively as I did back in the day because I have responsibilities these days. I simply can't afford to be baked all the time. It's not something I can do often with my kid, job, etc. (i.e. - Nothing illegal crosses my door unless my kid is at one of the grandparents' house.) Come to think of it, having a real job and a family have had the same effect on my drug 'use' as it has had on my gaming time.

I am also in the middle of an attempt to quit smoking cigarettes. It's been 8 days since I've had a cigarette. I still want one, too...

[ZeroAX]

I am also in the middle of an attempt to quit smoking cigarettes. It's been 8 days since I've had a cigarette. I still want one, too...

try chewing lots of gum. That way you die from overdose of sugar instead of cancer. Anyway good luck with that mate. For a real advise try some physical activity. It's supposed to help you blow off steam that you'd need a cigarette to do.

[nucking futs]

Sorry but I don't have the time to read that entire piece...

No offense, dude, but you followed this sentence with a rather large post that is actually more unreadable than any of those before it.

Paragraphs work wonders, my friend.

As for my own take on the topic.... I enjoy all forms of chemical enhancements sparingly. I'll smoke pot every now and then. I had a lot of fun with LSD, cocaine, etc. I just don't do it as excessively as I did back in the day because I have responsibilities these days. I simply can't afford to be baked all the time. It's not something I can do often with my kid, job, etc. (i.e. - Nothing illegal crosses my door unless my kid is at one of the grandparents' house.) Come to think of it, having a real job and a family have had the same effect on my drug 'use' as it has had on my gaming time.

I am also in the middle of an attempt to quit smoking cigarettes. It's been 8 days since I've had a cigarette. I still want one, too...

Well, if you still smoke pot every now and then you shouldn't even attempt to try quit smoking cigarettes. Except, if vaporize, or eat weed.

[Funk, E]

Why's that?