Remembering DOS-era gaming (giant jpg)

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No music, no sound effects, absolutely silent.

Other than to set volume settings, I see no options what so ever. I just picked up the game for a few bucks though, so we'll see what happens when it comes in the mail. :D
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Ziggy587 wrote:No music, no sound effects, absolutely silent.

Other than to set volume settings, I see no options what so ever. I just picked up the game for a few bucks though, so we'll see what happens when it comes in the mail. :D
Are you using DOSBox or your older PC with DOS? If the older PC be sure you are not in windows, but DOS (preferably DOS 6.22) and don't forget the Soundcard params in the AUTOEXEC.BAT. The Full CD will need to be setup the same way.

The SETUP.EXE file needs to be run.
A lot of DOS games have a separate INSTALL.EXE or SETUP.EXE to do the "tweaks".

In the meantime this may help, jump down to the Soundcard settings.
http://www.glennsguides.com/2008/01/abu ... ws-xp.html

I really really really need to get the DOSBox Guide done.
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This is on my Win98 machine, so no DOSbox. Thanks for the tips, they'll be useful if it doesn't work "out of the box".


The only problem that's really driving me nuts is this damn Doom95 mouse driver. :lol: I know Doomsday doesn't work on anything under XP... is there a Doom engine out there that runs on 98? Or does some one know what I need to do to get this mouse driver working in Doom95?
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Ziggy587 wrote:This is on my Win98 machine, so no DOSbox. Thanks for the tips, they'll be useful if it doesn't work "out of the box".

The only problem that's really driving me nuts is this damn Doom95 mouse driver. :lol: I know Doomsday doesn't work on anything under XP... is there a Doom engine out there that runs on 98? Or does some one know what I need to do to get this mouse driver working in Doom95?
For now you can check out the Abuse directory and run SETUP.EXE at the DOS prompt. The Disc will have the identical screen that autoloads on the first time install. After running Setup all the way thru, the Abuse config file will get updated with the correct Soundcard Settings.

If I remember right the Doom Win95 version is still using the DOS game with a Windows front end. If Abuse is already working with the Mouse then maybe the DOS Mouse driver is already installed? Maybe Windows 98 running its mouse driver is interfering with it?

You can do a file directory search of MOUSE.COM or MOUSE.EXE to confirm this. If you find it buried in the windows directory, run it at the command prompt.

There are also params to change the sensitvity of the DOS driver mouse, a command prompt.

Try this first in the mouse directory (Maybe buried in Windows)
Mouse /?

That should list all the variables. Sensitivity setting could be a number variable:
Mouse /s9
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Well according to the info I found, Doom has its own mouse driver. Check this out:

http://www.classicdoom.com/dmouse.htm

Also, I have also found out that the "Collector's Edition" that I have is missing this driver.

Anyways, it says if I'm running on 98 than all I have to do is extract that file into my Doom95 folder and make sure mouse support is set to ON in the setup menu. The thing is, I don't have a Doom95 folder because this is the "Collector's Edition" of all the Dooms (but it uses the Doom95 launcher). So I just went ahead an put the driver in every folder, but the mouse still wont work.
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Ziggy587 wrote:The thing is, I don't have a Doom95 folder because this is the "Collector's Edition" of all the Dooms (but it uses the Doom95 launcher). So I just went ahead an put the driver in every folder, but the mouse still wont work.
Good info at that site. Maybe USB is not supported, are you using a PS/2 Mouse?

When you get a chance please let me know if that SETUP.EXE file works in Abuse.
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Yeah, I'm using a PS/2 mouse.

I messed around with the setup.exe for Abuse and was able to get the sounds working. I completely forgot about setup.exe, it's been such a long time since I've messed with DOS games. Thanks for the tip!

So it seems that the freeware version I downloaded works fine, but I don't mind that I bought it. It was only $5 or so for CD plus instruction booklet and artwork, and I don't mind owning a hard copy of the game for that price.
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ZDoom is supposed to work on 98. Fired up immediately for me on 7x64 with full mouse and sound.

There is also a Windows port of Abuse floating around - the game source was released, but unfortunately the site for the guy who made the Windows version is no longer around. It's still to be found on other sites though, such as here.

Isn't running for me, but maybe it does on 98.
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ZDoom looks perfect! From their site, "It runs well under all modern versions of Windows, from Windows 95 to the new Windows Vista." I'll give it a try after work today. Thanks!

That's cool that some one ported Abuse to Windows. I'll probably stick with the DOS version since I've gotten the music/sound working.
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Man what a beautiful list. DOS gaming was a bigger part of my childhood than the NES or the Genesis, but I feel like a lot of the classics have really fallen out of the collective consciousness of gamers compared to the consoles. GOG.com has done a pretty good service of making a lot of them easily accessible to modern gamers at a low cost at least.

It's really rare these days that I find people I can wax nostalgic about with some of these gems. It almost brings a tear to my eye.
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