I'm still not seeing too much in the way of benefits for a man to get married. If you don't really want a family, aren't religious, don't care about passing on your name, feel just fine about telling your parents to shove their expectations, and could feel comfortable and good in a committed relationship without one, why bother? To be honest I'd rather spend the rest of my life with my best friends who I have a great relationship with nearly all the time than compromise and struggle to maintain a so-so marital relationship because of some love-blinded commitment I made when I was a kid. Marriage has a large effect on your life, and as a man I'm not sure if it would lead me where I want to be. How am I supposed to know what's going to be best for me in 10 years?
I feel as though so many people get married without much thought and because it's what they feel they are supposed to do, and not because it's what they want to do or what would be best for their relationship. I don't know how many times I've seen rings fly because of a fight, when (had the man been willing to put his pride aside) a simple and honest apology would have done. I feel as though people sometimes don't realize that they'll eventually run out of gimmicks to solve their problems and will need the learned maturation and connection with their partner that only time, a willingness to understand, and honest love can make.
Right now I'm living in a total marriage culture (which is probably why I'm becoming so cynical). The marriage rates at my university (BYU) are 5x the national average. Hell, half the people in my aparment complex don't even go to BYU and will readily admit that they came here to get married. I have three friends getting married in the next two weeks and have already been to quite a few weddings already in the past few months. More than half the people I know who get married are engaged in less than 3 months from the time they started dating and while they still know so little about each other (which is one of the most common things I hear from my recently married friends). The whole scene just rubs me the wrong way.
Getting back on topic, I am interested in the benefits the married men among us feel they've gotten as a result of getting married. Or perhaps benefits they feel they and their partner simply could not have grasped had they not decided to get married (regardless of whether people think they are achievable without a ring). Perhaps it made your trust and sense of closeness better than you feel it could have ever been otherwise. Perhaps it got your family to shove the horn dog comments. I'm not going to try and argue with anyone or attack what you type, but as someone who has been feeling more and more cynical about the whole idea I'd just like to know.
Are there any benefits to a man to get married?
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You buy video games because it's fun and makes you happy. If you didn't buy them, you would have less enjoyment in your life. That sounds like a perfectly valid reason to me. If Nintendo offered you a free copy of Punchout, would you turn them down and instead go buy a copy from the store? Of course not. That would be illogical.SpaceBooger wrote:Why does it have to be beneficial? Cant someone do something because it makes them happy? Thats why I buy video games. There is no advantage - they cost money that I work hard for, they take time away that I could have used to spend with my wife and son- but they make me happy.Inazuma wrote:OK, I can buy this. This would be one of the situations that could end up benefiting the man. Unfortunately for me, even if I was as poor and hopeless as someone like you, it would bother me morally to marry a woman just to get her money.
He called himself a loser first.SpaceBooger wrote:Also, do you really need to call someone a looser without knowing them... aren't you the one that said they were looking for logical and factual answers?
Basically he is saying that divorce wouldn't be much of a risk for him since he has nothing and also never plans on having anything in the future.deathred wrote: I'm not worried about losing half of my stuff since:
1. I don't own a lot.
2. She makes more than me.
If you are worried about losing half of your stuff, sign a prenuptial agreement and lay everything down.
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Marriage may not exist without love but love exists without marriage. It's convenient for my argument because it's true. I know it's frustrating to try to argue against truth, but that's what you are up against here. My definition of marriage is based on hard legal facts and reality, instead of outdated ideals, beliefs, tradition, culture and how things "should" be.Dylan wrote:Why are you disassociating marriage with the very things that define it? Marriage in general doesn't exist without relationships, love, and other things that these entail. Your description of marriage is not widely accepted, and very convenient for your argument.Inazuma wrote:Also it seems many people are confused about the topic. This isn't about loving others, forming families, living together and being in committed relationships. It's about marriage. How does signing that paper contract benefit men? I'm still waiting for a valid answer to that.
If I am holding a glass of milk in my hand, you can say whatever you want in an attempt to convince people that it's really a glass of orange juice, but it will always be milk. Truth is very powerful stuff. Even if you went so far as to kill me and blow up the entire planet, it wouldn't change the milk into orange juice.
Try to come up with a reason why we should pay for something that we already have for free. Tough, isn't it?
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Dude, Jesus just called me and told me to tell you to settle down. He also said to not bring God into this thread, he's got better things to do.Inazuma wrote: It's a good thing God isn't real or else we would have all been killed long ago.
In a thread about marriage, for some reason you mention:
Faith
Slavery
Orange Juice
Gay Friends
Murdering innocents
Birth Control
Milk
You don't make sense. I'm willing to listen with an open mind, but your posts are jibber-jabber.
You've stated that your interpretation of the Bible is the only correct one.
You've compared women to sandwiches and old copies of Punch Out!! Why? I'm still not sure.
Your posts show you think men are superior to women. And that only women can benefit from marriage.
You said that marriage has nothing to do with love.
You called someone a loser for no reason.
You're a waste of my time too. You give no concrete reason why people shouldn't get married. It's always some, "You're a drone of society" bullshit.
That said, I'll probably reply to your retort.
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It's cool and whatnot to have a strong belief that other can believe what they want.
It's a completely different thing to ask for an opinion and then not be open to the ideas and thoughts of others. It's like disproving God to God-Fearing people. It just won't work.
What exactly are you looking for? A reward for getting married? Do you want the Government to come in and give you a car for getting married? What kind of answer do you seek? There have been plenty of reasons valid to others, but just not to you.
It's true, my example may be flawed. I don't have a lot. She could take it all if she wanted. But I know that I can go ahead and attain whatever I lose again. Material things are not what should be important. Other people feel that they are and feel the need to make sure they don't get screwed.
It's a completely different thing to ask for an opinion and then not be open to the ideas and thoughts of others. It's like disproving God to God-Fearing people. It just won't work.
What exactly are you looking for? A reward for getting married? Do you want the Government to come in and give you a car for getting married? What kind of answer do you seek? There have been plenty of reasons valid to others, but just not to you.
It's true, my example may be flawed. I don't have a lot. She could take it all if she wanted. But I know that I can go ahead and attain whatever I lose again. Material things are not what should be important. Other people feel that they are and feel the need to make sure they don't get screwed.
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There is NO benefits. i think its a trap. they want to suck you in and rope you in for life!
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Nothing of value is free.Inazuma wrote: Try to come up with a reason why we should pay for something that we already have for free. Tough, isn't it?
And what does this have to do with marriage?
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That would be a pretty good incentive.deathred wrote: What exactly are you looking for? A reward for getting married?
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Fixed that for ya.retroman wrote:There are NO benefits. i think its a trap. they want to suck you in and rope you in for life!
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Wouldn't it?Luke wrote:That would be a pretty good incentive.deathred wrote: What exactly are you looking for? A reward for getting married?
Every man who is married will receive a sandwich and a copy of Punch-out for free!
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