Top 10 Consoles According to GameFAQs

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brunoafh wrote:
lisalover1 wrote:Also, brunoafh, I am pretty sure you are in the minority here by dissing the Gamecube.
I didn't "diss" the GameCube. I own one. I was just saying it doesn't exactly excel when it comes to it's exclusive software selection.
I agree to this the Gamecube pissed me off a lot when a lot of great games like Burnout 3 didn't come out and others failed to include any online component.

I came to the conclusion that the PS2 had the strongest software lineup and due to space issues I have these days out of the three I would choose to keep the PS2 above the Gamecube and Xbox.

Viewtiful Joe 1 + 2 ( Was also on the PS2 )
Chaos Field ( Was also on the dreamcast )
Ikaruga ( Dreamcast + Xbox360)
Shikigami no Shiro 2 ( Dreamcast , PS2 and Xbox )
Radirgy ( Dreamcast + Xbox360 )
Eternal Darkness ( Not into Resident evil type games )
Phantasy Star Online Episodes I,II,&III ( Whats the point ? Gamecube isn't online anymore and didn't really have much support for it either way )
Metroid Prime I&II ( Not exclusive anymore on the wii )
Skies of Arcadia Legends ( Also on the Dreamcast )
Star Fox Assault ( Didn't like this one bit it strays from the classic formula too much which probably explains the sales)
Game Boy Player ( Given I love the Gameboy player but not a must if you don't own the console )
Resident Evil 0-4 + Code Veronica (Resident Evil 0 and 1 were remakes and 2 + 3 were same as PS1 versions with filtering.
Code Veronica and 4 were available on the PS2)

Wave Race: Blue Storm
F-Zero GX
Cubivore
Billy Hatcher and the Giant Egg
P.N.03
Battalion Wars
Homefront

I don't see the Gamecube as a strong machine to be honest when a lot of it can be played elsewhere.
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msimplay wrote:
brunoafh wrote:
lisalover1 wrote:Also, brunoafh, I am pretty sure you are in the minority here by dissing the Gamecube.
I didn't "diss" the GameCube. I own one. I was just saying it doesn't exactly excel when it comes to it's exclusive software selection.
I agree to this the Gamecube pissed me off a lot when a lot of great games like Burnout 3 didn't come out and others failed to include any online component.

I came to the conclusion that the PS2 had the strongest software lineup and due to space issues I have these days out of the three I would choose to keep the PS2 above the Gamecube and Xbox.

Viewtiful Joe 1 + 2 ( Was also on the PS2 )
Chaos Field ( Was also on the dreamcast )
Ikaruga ( Dreamcast + Xbox360)
Shikigami no Shiro 2 ( Dreamcast , PS2 and Xbox )
Radirgy ( Dreamcast + Xbox360 )
Eternal Darkness ( Not into Resident evil type games )
Phantasy Star Online Episodes I,II,&III ( Whats the point ? Gamecube isn't online anymore and didn't really have much support for it either way )
Metroid Prime I&II ( Not exclusive anymore on the wii )
Skies of Arcadia Legends ( Also on the Dreamcast )
Star Fox Assault ( Didn't like this one bit it strays from the classic formula too much which probably explains the sales)
Game Boy Player ( Given I love the Gameboy player but not a must if you don't own the console )
Resident Evil 0-4 + Code Veronica (Resident Evil 0 and 1 were remakes and 2 + 3 were same as PS1 versions with filtering.
Code Veronica and 4 were available on the PS2)

Wave Race: Blue Storm
F-Zero GX
Cubivore
Billy Hatcher and the Giant Egg
P.N.03
Battalion Wars
Homefront

I don't see the Gamecube as a strong machine to be honest when a lot of it can be played elsewhere.
Almost all those games you commented on were superior on the Gamecube to their original versions. The other ones you ruled out due to personal preference, which seems to be in opposition to the general opinion about those games.
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lisalover1 wrote: Almost all those games you commented on were superior on the Gamecube to their original versions. The other ones you ruled out due to personal preference, which seems to be in opposition to the general opinion about those games.
"Superior" is just a matter of opinion take the case of Metal Gear Solid I think the Cube version is better but many dislike the cube version compared to the original.

I don't count games that can be played elsewhere as exclusives it's like Ninja Gaiden Sigma is an exclusive to PS3 but people were playing the same game as Ninja Gaiden / Ninja Gaiden Black on Xbox for years.
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msimplay wrote:
lisalover1 wrote: Almost all those games you commented on were superior on the Gamecube to their original versions. The other ones you ruled out due to personal preference, which seems to be in opposition to the general opinion about those games.
"Superior" is just a matter of opinion take the case of Metal Gear Solid I think the Cube version is better but many dislike the cube version compared to the original.

I don't count games that can be played elsewhere as exclusives it's like Ninja Gaiden Sigma is an exclusive to PS3 but people were playing the same game as Ninja Gaiden / Ninja Gaiden Black on Xbox for years.
Well, by that, I mean technical superiority. The Gamecube versions of Resident Evil 1 and 4 are almost universally regarded as technically superior to their original versions. 2, 3, and Veronica are more minor differences, but I still regard them as technically superior to the PS1, and even Dreamcast versions. Therefore, regardless of whether or not you prefer the PS1 version of Metal Gear Solid, you cannot deny that the Gamecube version was a massive graphical and audio upgrade.
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lisalover1 wrote:
msimplay wrote:
lisalover1 wrote: Almost all those games you commented on were superior on the Gamecube to their original versions. The other ones you ruled out due to personal preference, which seems to be in opposition to the general opinion about those games.
"Superior" is just a matter of opinion take the case of Metal Gear Solid I think the Cube version is better but many dislike the cube version compared to the original.

I don't count games that can be played elsewhere as exclusives it's like Ninja Gaiden Sigma is an exclusive to PS3 but people were playing the same game as Ninja Gaiden / Ninja Gaiden Black on Xbox for years.
Well, by that, I mean technical superiority. The Gamecube versions of Resident Evil 1 and 4 are almost universally regarded as technically superior to their original versions. 2, 3, and Veronica are more minor differences, but I still regard them as technically superior to the PS1, and even Dreamcast versions. Therefore, regardless of whether or not you prefer the PS1 version of Metal Gear Solid, you cannot deny that the Gamecube version was a massive graphical and audio upgrade.
I was just thinking the Gamecube kind of floated around the middle when it came to technical superiority.

It was in the middle it beat the PS2 most of the time except when a game used the PS2 as the lead platform in games such as Need for Speed Underground 2.
But in in terms of technical superiority the Xbox version of the games were best.

I find it difficult to see the Gamecube as one of the greats because in my opinion it just didn't do anything special.
Last gen PS2 had the volume of games and the Xbox had the graphical muscle and Live.

What did the Gamecube have ? To me it just kind of floated around in the middle while you can argue it had Nintendo 1st party I dunno to me it was the weakest 1st party of all Nintendo generations.

The N64 has some of the undisputed all time greats and the Wii has it's motion controls and updates to the Nintendo franchises.
I really don't see what the Gamecube has as special though and why would you want to pick it up.
I also don't feel the game library was as well rounded as either the Xbox or PS2
there is near enough every type of genre on the Xbox and PS2 I don't feel the Gamecube represented my favourite genre very well which was the Fighting genre.
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I do feel the Gamecube takes too much criticism though. It does come down to opinions, I admit, but I also love a lot of the Cube's exclusives, and then there's a lot of great multi-platform games and third party support too on top of that. I have nothing against the PS2 or the Xbox, but there's just something I love about the Gamecube.

I've always been a 'quality over quantity' guy, so if a console has just a few games that I really really enjoy, that's enough for me to justify my love for said console. That's why 10/11/12 years ago, back when I was in high school, I could never understand my Playstation fanboy friends saying I was silly for loving the Dreamcast so much, when it only had a couple of hundred games (probably less) and the Playstation had thousands of games. Shenmue, Soul Calibur, Jet Set Radio, Sonic Adventure and all the other great exclusives etc etc were enough for me then, and it's not like you could find games anything like JSR and Shenmue on any other console.

Anyways, about the Gamecube. These games are enough for me to justify the Gamcube being awesome. And for the sake of arguments, I just kept exclusives.

Metroid Prime 1+ 2
Eternal Darkness
Zelda Wind Waker
Resident Evil 0 and REmake
Tales of Symphonia
Super Smash Bros Melee
Super Mario Sunshine
Paper Mario 2
Pikmin 1 + 2
Fzero GX

I know Pikmin and Metroid Prime have since been made available on the Wii, but discrediting the Cube because of that seems pretty harsh. Should we not rate the SNES or Genesis/Mega Drive because most of their catalogue has been made available elsewhere since? (i.e. virtual console)
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Reprise wrote:I do feel the Gamecube takes too much criticism though. It does come down to opinions, I admit, but I also love a lot of the Cube's exclusives, and then there's a lot of great multi-platform games and third party support too on top of that. I have nothing against the PS2 or the Xbox, but there's just something I love about the Gamecube.

I've always been a 'quality over quantity' guy, so if a console has just a few games that I really really enjoy, that's enough for me to justify my love for said console. That's why 10/11/12 years ago, back when I was in high school, I could never understand my Playstation fanboy friends saying I was silly for loving the Dreamcast so much, when it only had a couple of hundred games (probably less) and the Playstation had thousands of games. Shenmue, Soul Calibur, Jet Set Radio, Sonic Adventure and all the other great exclusives etc etc were enough for me then, and it's not like you could find games anything like JSR and Shenmue on any other console.

Anyways, about the Gamecube. These games are enough for me to justify the Gamcube being awesome. And for the sake of arguments, I just kept exclusives.

Metroid Prime 1+ 2
Eternal Darkness
Zelda Wind Waker
Resident Evil 0 and REmake
Tales of Symphonia
Super Smash Bros Melee
Super Mario Sunshine
Paper Mario 2
Pikmin 1 + 2
Fzero GX

I know Pikmin and Metroid Prime have since been made available on the Wii, but discrediting the Cube because of that seems pretty harsh. Should we not rate the SNES or Genesis/Mega Drive because most of their catalogue has been made available elsewhere since? (i.e. virtual console)

Fair points you have made but you can't discredit the Snes / Genesis for their back catalog as you will never ever get the full Snes catalog on the virtual console due to licencing etc.
Also Virtual console is emulation and you know what after getting my Snes out of the attic recently I can attest to saying playing games the on the original hardware is the best way to play them.
I have found that no matter how accurate they think an emulator is it's just not the same plus you always get certain quirks on certain titles for example on Mortal Kombat through any emulator and even Street Fighter 2 there seems to be an input delay that isn't on the original hardware and even the sound is not the same despite all these filters for sound being available in an emulator you can never quite get it right.
Everyone knows about the Wii's emulation accuracy when it comes to Megadrive / Genesis sound.

Also I like your list of justification for owning the Gamecube it's something that used to happen in the old days.
I kind of missed the point in recent years in the old days I actually used to buy a console for just one game.

For the Snes it was Street Fighter 2
Megadrive it was Sonic the Hedgehog
Playstation it was Tekken + Ridge Racer
Sega Saturn it was Virtua Fighter 2 + Daytona USA + Sega Rally
Dreamcast it was Soul Calibur
PS2 it was Tekken Tag and Metal Gear Solid 2
Gamecube was for Zelda Wind Waker
I started to get hazy as to why I bought things after the Xbox =P

Point is that it should only take one game to make hardware worth owning I mean it did in the old days used to play like Street Fighter 2 for ages in the Arcades.
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^You mean ssbm right? Because almost every gamecube owner had that...
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yomomma1 wrote:^You mean ssbm right? Because almost every gamecube owner had that...
Na everyone loves that game and you are right I had that game but it's a party type of game me and my friends have always been into competitive fighting games such as Street Fighter , Tekken, Soul Calibur , Dead or Alive etc.

SSMB isn't a system seller for me however the Zelda franchise is one of my favourite of all time
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Reprise wrote:I could never understand my Playstation fanboy friends saying I was silly for loving the Dreamcast so much, when it only had a couple of hundred games (probably less) and the Playstation had thousands of games. Shenmue, Soul Calibur, Jet Set Radio, Sonic Adventure and all the other great exclusives etc etc were enough for me then, and it's not like you could find games anything like JSR and Shenmue on any other console.

Ps the Dreamcast is special for me because it's the last console that actually had Arcade ports and itself is like having an Arcade machine in your home.
For me it was like a Dream come true after some ports on the 32bit systems being almost perfect the Dreamcast was the 1st and probably only console to have Arcade perfect ports.

Later on even the PS2's ports with games like Marvel vs Capcom 2 Virtua Fighter 4 and Tekken 5 than arcade perfect despite the hardware.

Even today it was the Dreamcast version of Marvel vs Capcom 2 that was ported to the 360.

The feel of the Dreamcast hasn't been replicated since it's demise I think that Arcades went down near enough the same time as the Sega announced that they discontinued the Dreamcast.

So strange to be honest because up until then Arcade perfection was the holy grail and then we had it but it still wasn't enough to beat the hype of the as of then unreleased PS2.
I also agree quality over quantity however it's what makes the PS2 special it has so many quality games I mean I can play most classics on the same system especially when you consider the massive back catalog of PS1 games in the equation.

Heh I never quite forgave Sony for killing the Dreamcast until recently but ah well it was just good business tactics.
Sega were good at making games but their marketing sucked ass and still does for the most part otherwise how could a game like Bayonetta slip through the radar so much.
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