What will Nintendo Do After Wii?

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Opa Opa wrote:
Reprise wrote:The 3DS is essentially an exstention of the DS name, but that obviously brings new innovations with it.


New innovations?!
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To me the 3DS is what the Virtual Boy should have been in the first place. But I get what you're saying.

I'll do you one better: http://famicomworld.com/system/other/3d-system/


3D gaming is something Nintendo has wanted to advance for a very, very long time. However, I think the particular solution employed by the 3DS is fairly innovative. Lenticular 3D displays have been experimented with for large TV sets, but never used so far, because of limitations on viewing angle and very high manufacturing costs. Nintendo cleverly solved the problem with lenticular displays by incorporating one into a handheld system, reducing the problem posed by limited viewing angle and reducing costs by allowing a much smaller screen. Innovation isn't always about finding totally new ideas. Often it's about finding newer and better answers to existing problems.


Reprise wrote:Besides, Nintendo aren't always about innovations. What innovations did the Super Nintendo, Gameboy Color, Gameboy Advance, and Gamecube really bring?
Super NES introduced "shoulder buttons" as we know them, as well as the clever idea to dedicate optional, extra cartridge pins for connecting an external co-processor (DSP, FX chip, et al.) Remember, an innovation doesn't necessarily have to be used again.

Speaking of which, Game Cube introduced the option of using handheld game systems (GBA) as a controller--an unusual, unrepeated innovation for which I think the GameBoy Advance should receive credit as well. It was also possible to temporarily load games onto the GBA from the GC, something that has been continued in the Wii and DS.

As for GameBoy Color--that one I will sort of give you. However, I will point out that this system somewhat successfully solved the major problem Sega had with their portables. Game Gear and Nomad were notorious for sucking down batteries far too fast to be practical. The reason was the back-lit color LCD display. The solution that Sega apparently didn't think of was to use an unlit reflective-backed color LCD display. This worked relatively well until lit LCD displays became more practical.
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flamepanther wrote:I'll do you one better: http://famicomworld.com/system/other/3d-system/

So the goggles bombed...then they decided to try it again? Hmm. Now I'm wondering if Nintendo deserved it.
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YoshiEgg25 wrote:So the goggles bombed...then they decided to try it again? Hmm. Now I'm wondering if Nintendo deserved it.
To quote Obi-Wan Kenobi: Who's the more foolish: the fool, or the fool who follows him?

Speaking of the fool who follows, those weren't self-contained goggles like the VirtualBoy. They were liquid crystal active shutter glasses, exactly like the ones now used by most of the 3D televisions required for Sony's PS3 to do 3D, but made with 1980s technology. The only difference? You didn't need a special TV for it. A standard CRT television was sufficient.

This little history lesson actually shows something good about Nintendo. See, 3D gaming is a really good idea. I've tried it, and it is absolutely way beyond awesome--but costly, uncomfortable, inconvenient, or sometimes all of the above. Executives at most companies would incorrectly see 3D as a bad idea and abandon it. Nintendo recognized the good idea despite this. They understand that innovation requires experimentation, and experimentation sometimes involves failure.
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slowslow325 wrote: Look at Nintendo's past, they're ALL about innovation.
Oh really? Like when they ripped off the XaviXport system to create the Wii and Wii Sports?

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Yeah they have always borrowed other peoples ideas as well, its just that they have bought them to the mass market.

I'm pretty sure I've heard Reggie talking about HD being on the cards and they would be daft not to do that. I cant see them dropping motion control as it gained them such a massive chunk of the market - they will carry on evolving it until it no longer makes money.

If we look at the 3DS; we are promised better online support and there seems to be a large dollop of 3rd party support as well. The game line up is certainly geared more towards us gamers atm. I think Ninty will try and push for both these things to continue on there next console, as they are the major problems the wii has faced.

What are they going to do to make them selves stand out from the competition? God only knows what is swirling around Miyamoto's head
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Enable DVD playback on their system? Make decent online?

But in all seriousness, I'd like to see a way to combine the nunchuck and vitality sensor, possibly into a glove peripheral that allows you to grasp and manipulate objects in-game. The glove goes on the dominant hand, and you hold the Wiimote in it as your basic game controller/in-game weapon, and then hold the controller in your other hand and grasp stuff in-game. Trying to flesh out in my head how it would work. Like, would the joystick be moved to the wiimote? I can't stand the Wii's d-pad, and I could see my thumb positioned so I can move the joystick and hit the A button together easily.
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Weekend_Warrior wrote:
slowslow325 wrote: Look at Nintendo's past, they're ALL about innovation.
Oh really? Like when they ripped off the XaviXport system to create the Wii and Wii Sports?

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Also, the Xavix SUCKED BADLY and required you to buy and use bats, boxing gloves, bowling balls and other real peripherals with built in sensors as the controllers and each game was terribly expensive.

The Wii uses just the Remote and Nunchuk. All the bat, tennis racquet and bowling ball peripherals are pointless and made by shitty third parties, not manufactured or licensed by Nintendo.
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Those Xavix controllers seem to just be accelerometers anyway, as far as I can tell. It's difficult to find any info on how they work. The Wii remote uses optical tracking and accelerometers, which to my knowledge has not been done before on a game console.
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Looking at everyone's input, I guess no one has any idea whats next, I guess technology stopped evolving

HD= done
3dtv= done
motion control= done
online gameplay= done
hard drive storage= done
play media= done
download games= done
download updates = done
bluray = done

there is nothing out there that has not been done yet in consoles.
The only thing I can see happening is improvement of what we currently have, for example:
-Better online gameplay
-Better graphics
-larger storage

nothing new or competitive, and last I hear, people are still mesmerized by the current gen graphics, so I am guessing people won't be waiting anxiously for the graphics(its not like the n64 -> gamecube jump) .

the only two things I know that are not in consoles are:
-Internet browsing
- TV, and tv recording as in Tivo

and I think that might be possible with updates, or it might be implemented and i just don't know about it.

I guess next generation , people will throw out their media players and everything in their home theater, and will keep the TV, audio system, and their console. No decoders , tivos, stereos, dvd players, bluray players...just consoles.
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