Nintendo's lack of diversity

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jvalentine98 wrote:Obviously game are where we go to escape reality, not think politics or socially correct approaches to issues.

The idea of a Japanese game company making a fat Italian plumber their mascot probably wouldn't go over so well these days. (They'd be accused of stereotyping against either Italians, or plumbers) but I guess in the 80s the world hadn't lost its mind yet.
Why did you start this thread again? I thought you were making this thread because you thought it was a legitimate problem. This post sounds like the opposite.
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catnip wrote:Doesn't bother me at all. I don't see any legitimate reason why it's an issue. By all means, if they come up with a cool character concept of a different skin color or whatever, then add them, but... Yeah, it just matters so darn little to me. As long as the game is good, I could care less either way.
It's an issue because we now have the media and activists groups with their PC agenda who are pushing for change in every area of life. Nothing is off limits to them, even our video games. When their machine is done, they'll have laid waste and changed everything. At least that's their agenda.
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pepharytheworm wrote: Thats a common arguement from those with white privilege. Not saying you are one though.
Oh yeah, definitely white privilege'd up in here. "Cisgendered male" and all that, too. Again, I don't have a problem with them doing it, but at the same time... I dunno, my perspective may be different, but it normally made more more uncomfortable/seemed more stereotypical/offensive when it was forced into media (example off the top of my head - Captain Planet). If they're gonna add a character, do it, but I don't think they're doing anything wrong by not doing it, and forcing it in there seems silly to me.

Am I wrong? Is this a bigoted perspective?
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Why oh why must everything be diversified :P. I'm so tired of everything having to be "politically correct" it's an entertainment medium why place limits on someones creativity by forcing them to have a diversity of race, political parties, and sexual orientations in their games. Do we really gain any enhancement to our enjoyment just by ensuring that every nationality, sexual orientation, and political view gets their equal share of screen time in a game?

It is a game it's meant to be enjoyed the guys aren't trying to brainwash people into joining the Nazi party or anything.
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My point is that every time a movie is made now, and the main characters are not minorities, there is a gripe somewhere. We hear about it because it's impossible not to, all thanks to the internet and 24 hour news. Remember the way Capcom was vilified over RE 5, a white guy killing hordes of black people? (Never mind that Africans ARE black and that it made sense, we're supposed to pretend they aren't black in real life?) It's eventually going to get to when a game is made with human characters, companies will make it almost a requirement to have one character of each race represented. By doing that, they are making it about race, when it shouldn't be.
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Fragems wrote:Why oh why must everything be diversified :P. I'm so tired of everything having to be "politically correct" it's an entertainment medium why place limits on someones creativity by forcing them to have a diversity of race, political parties, and sexual orientations in their games. Do we really gain any enhancement to our enjoyment just by ensuring that every nationality, sexual orientation, and political view gets their equal share of screen time in a game?

It is a game it's meant to be enjoyed the guys aren't trying to brainwash people into joining the Nazi party or anything.
If you're actually part of a minority group and actaully can see yourself represented in these games? Abso-fucking-lutely.
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catnip wrote:Doesn't bother me at all. I don't see any legitimate reason why it's an issue. By all means, if they come up with a cool character concept of a different skin color or whatever, then add them, but... Yeah, it just matters so darn little to me. As long as the game is good, I could care less either way.
It's an issue because we now have the media and activists groups with their PC agenda who are pushing for change in every area of life. Nothing is off limits to them, even our video games. When their machine is done, they'll have laid waste and changed everything. At least that's their agenda.
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I think I am in the middle here. I have no issue with games or films wih heavy influence of minority characters or in locations not often represented. This can give fresh perspectives and experiences.

But I also dont like it when it feels forced and they seemingly have some minority coverage check box they go through solely for the sake of being inclusive. If a character trait be it minority or not adds to the experience and feels authentic, then hey, why not? So it annoys me to a degree when this happens as I do want the creators true vision or original purpose for the game or film.

On the flipside, those productions that have a minority focus shouldnt be derided because of that either, and take it for the experience it is.

I really think I dont care the ethnicity, gender, or sexuality of the characters for the most part, I just want good or well written ones. However, when these mixes are jarringly shoved in to placate PR interests, it often feels forced and can be noticable.
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jmustang, I'm with you. Basically what I was trying to say, but you made it sound prettier.
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jvalentine98 wrote:
catnip wrote:Doesn't bother me at all. I don't see any legitimate reason why it's an issue. By all means, if they come up with a cool character concept of a different skin color or whatever, then add them, but... Yeah, it just matters so darn little to me. As long as the game is good, I could care less either way.
It's an issue because we now have the media and activists groups with their PC agenda who are pushing for change in every area of life. Nothing is off limits to them, even our video games. When their machine is done, they'll have laid waste and changed everything. At least that's their agenda.
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BoneSnapDeez wrote: Sup Hannity.
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