Gamestop selling "vintage" games online in the near future

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D.D.D. wrote:
dsheinem wrote:Why is everyone so sure that this will be a negative thing?


Because it is GS.
Walking into an "evil" store expecting a good deal on something that commands a high price used is like putting your hand into boiling water, expecting it to be cold.


Except for the fact that there are many current and last gen games that one can buy RIGHT NOW at Gamestop for MUCH LESS than one would typically find that same game for in an auction or in a typical BST thread. There's a long history of this at Gamestop, despite how "evil" you think they are...

So your analogy is full of bullshit.
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We were never talking about current or last gen. This has been about "vintage" games.
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I'm trying to figure out how GS selling old stuff will really affect the retro market in any really significant way. Especially if they're only doing it online. At worst, it's typical ebay pricing, and you can still continue to buy things elsewhere.
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dsheinem wrote:Why is everyone so sure that this will be a negative thing?

Might it be possible that this will open up the possibility of finding some more expensive "vintage games" for a much lower price? I can't see them getting away with commanding more than $30-$40 at the VERY high end for any given older title in a store or online, and there are a lot of games for older systems that would be a STEAL at those kind of prices. I am picturing $25 copies of Guardian Heroes or $50 copies of Earthbound. Do you think they'd really be able to charge "market value" for these titles? They certainly don't charge "market value" for some of their rarer current/last-gen stuff - it is often worth picking up some used PS2 or GCN games at GS if you can, for example, as you'll pay much less if you can find a copy there than you would on eBay, etc.

On the other hand, expect plenty of $1 games to be sold for $5-$10 or more...


I don't expect to see Saturn stuff like Guardian Heroes, but maybe. I'm expecting they're going to go with the more mainstream consoles where they'll have the biggest supply and the largest number of potential buyers. I could be wrong but it's what seems most likely to me.

I was also thinking the same about what they'd price games that are really in-demand in the marketplace at, or if they could keep that demand supplied for very long. Who knows what they've got sitting around in their warehouses already.

My biggest fear about this isn't about the rare or hard to get games, but the sub-ten dollar ones being sold for much higher prices simply because they're "vintage" and other sellers using those prices as a reference. It might be kind of an unfounded concern at this point but it's still there.

GameStop has already been dealing in retro games through their rewards program with even stuff like Atari 2600 and NES games being traded for an absurd amount of points which is partly the reason I fear about what kind of dollar value GameStop is going to give these really common titles.

Like others I'm also concerned about what their definition of "refurbished" might be. Will we be dealing with games that have new cases and labels? I'm not entirely opposed to that as long as they're listed as such and the games they do it to were a real mess to begin with. I'm just not sure how responsibly and respectfully a company that throws away boxes and manuals is going to deal with restoring old hardware.

I'm really cautious and concerned about this and currently hanging over to the pessimistic side of things. If GameStop does go through with this though I do hope they prove me wrong.

All that said I think it would be really cool if GameStop got into the business of engineering better clone consoles and maybe even reproductions of hard to find games. I doubt this is a route they're going to take but it's fun to dream. They might start selling existing clone consoles though, if they're going to be selling retro games. I've started seeing Hyperkin stuff pop up in chain stores like FYE already.
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"Refurbished" cartridges probably just means that they've cleaned the contacts really good and maybe done a save battery replacement.

If Gamestop overprices common titles, more likely than not they'll simply find that they don't move fast enough and remember why they stopped selling old stuff to begin with.
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D.D.D. wrote:We were never talking about current or last gen. This has been about "vintage" games.


But you said there's no reason to expect that GS would sell expensive games for a good price. There's lots of evidence to suggest that they've always done just that...

I know people love to hate on GS, and I personally don't frequent them with any regularity, but there are some good things that they do - including making some stuff that is pricey online available for cheap in their stores. GCN component cables, PS2 RPGs, CEs of various games, discontinued accessories/controllers, etc. - these all show up as legitimate "finds" in that thread with regularity. I don't see any reason to ASSUME that the "vintage" game sales will strictly feature gutted carts for exorbitant prices.
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I've found my experiences with GameStop to vary on a store-by-store basis. Like any retailer it's got a lot to do with management.

There are a few business practices like the DS cases and manuals that as a collector make my blood boil, but again this seems to be on a store-by-store level. Some GameStops still have used DS games in their cases, others don't.

The stores themselves don't even completely get along with each other according to one of the employees at one of my favorite GameStop locations with some managers being easier to deal with than others.
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The one caveat Dsh is that if they're only doing this online then the opportunity cost of pricing things at market value and not moving them is much less than if they sold in the store.
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MrPopo wrote:The one caveat Dsh is that if they're only doing this online then the opportunity cost of pricing things at market value and not moving them is much less than if they sold in the store.


Yeah, fair enough. This factor remains to be seen.
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Anyone remember when they used to sell Genesis carts back in 2004? That's when I was rebuilding my Genesis collection and recall the games being really inexpensive, buying in bulks of 20 or so (don't remember them ever being greater than $5). Wonder how they'll figure out the pricing on these vintage games.
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