The worst fanbases

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flamepanther wrote:Make excuses, of course! They're completely convinced that the U.S. comics are Sega's official timeline, so obviously any discrepancies are a misunderstanding on the part of the reader/player, or Sonic Team didn't pay enough attention to continuity :roll:

@CFFJR: That sounds like some really clever maneuvering on the part of the writers! Less insane than how it sounded when I first heard about it, so thanks for filling us in. Still, it's pretty obvious that the games aren't operating in the Archie universe.
Happy to help! :D

About the maniac fans, I hate that behavior. Its ridiculous, and if they were really such huge fans they would know that Sega actually keeps Archie Comics on a bit of a leash as far as the content goes. Every single issue goes through Sega for approval, and there's been several occasions where they nixed ideas and stories that they considered to be out of line, and even the appearance of the artwork in one notorious case. But even with that, they have a lot of freedom, and as you said, the two universes are very, very different. Anyone who says otherwise is in denial.

On a side note, my own part in this conversation has reminded me of Calvin and Hobbes:

"I'm not dumb. I just have a command of thoroughly useless information."

:lol:

I might add that to my sig.
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CFFJR wrote: Every single issue goes through Sega for approval, and there's been several occasions where they nixed ideas and stories that they considered to be out of line, and even the appearance of the artwork in one notorious case.
okay, I'm curious

explain more please
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AppleQueso wrote:
CFFJR wrote: Every single issue goes through Sega for approval, and there's been several occasions where they nixed ideas and stories that they considered to be out of line, and even the appearance of the artwork in one notorious case.
okay, I'm curious

explain more please
:lol: Certainly, though its not as crazy as it sounds.

To be specific, Sega had a problem with one particular panel.

I don't recall the story that happened around it, but something bad happened to Sonic that hurt him enough (emotionally) that he cried.

The artist drew this as it was, with Sonic's face torn in a cartoonish manner and tears on his face.

Sega didn't like this depiction, and they toned it down, so Sonic didn't look as anguished, and merely had tears in his eyes.

My description might not be spot on, as its been a while since I saw the before and after panels, and I can't find them on google, (which is surprising and annoying) but that's the gist of it.
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AppleQueso wrote:apparently what's left of the Powerpuff Girls fanbase is full of fanfiction writers and shippers. :?
I noticed that. Most of the "normal" fans abandoned the series long ago. Videogame fanbases seem to be more loyal, for some reason.

Oh, and anyone who insists that the Sonic games are supposed to follow the comic's storyline is just nuts. The comics are based off a TV show that was only loosely based off the Genesis games, and so there's little reason to expect that the comics and games are going to be in sync today. Besides, the comics are made by American cartoonists, and the games by the Japanese Sonic Team. I doubt the two communicate with each other very often.
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BoringSupreez wrote:
AppleQueso wrote:apparently what's left of the Powerpuff Girls fanbase is full of fanfiction writers and shippers. :?
I noticed that. Most of the "normal" fans abandoned the series long ago. Videogame fanbases seem to be more loyal, for some reason.
Wait, people are shipping kindergarteners? That should get them on some kind of pedophile watch list or something. Sex offenders waiting to happen.
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Jrecee wrote: I mean, if 10-15 years ago you had a sudden thought about how hot it would be to see daisy duck spontaneously combust while getting banged in the ass, there was nothing you could do to act on it. But now there's some dude who thought the exact same thing and drew it and submitted it to deviantart.
Clearly you were only searching from AOL or something 10-15 years ago. I would sometimes get rather bored as a lab monitor and search for weird stuff as I couldn't really work on any of my homework in the lab. I spent a few weeks collecting fonts, a great number of the 857 I currently have installed came from that period. I also spent about a month looking at horrible accident pictures on Ogrish or whatever is was.

Sometimes the links off simply strange sites led to more terrible stuff like you're talking about. Granted it was not so convenient as looking up some furry board or deviant art is today. And no that stuff isn't for me and I wasn't like the guy that always sat in the corner looking at porn all the time and would spastically start closing windows any time someone got up from their computer or came in the lab door.
Well ok, slightly more than 15 years ago. The internet was only just beginning to make sense to me (and most people) around 95-96, and I was only in 4th grade at the time. But my point was the same. Before that, I think there were just limited means for these types of people to get together.

As for this massive discussion of sonic comics. I stopped reading them around the 60s. I caught up with a couple during the whole sonic adventure type transition thing, which if I recall right, was done because the U.S. and Japanese marketing divisions were merged in some way, and they were trying to meld the different versions of sonic together. Which is also the reason why they started calling Robotnik Eggman around Sonic Adventure 1 and 2. All those adjustments to the continuity from then on seem to the the norm for most comics though. Although they seem to be more outlandish in the sonic comics. I guess that's fitting though since they're more cartoonish and out there than most other comics anyway.

I have been picking up the current issues because the covers are takes on the original genesis game covers. The story seems to have jumped to some alternate reality for a while which is based on the early games. Overall though, the tone is pretty much the same as I remember. The dialogue is pretty lame in parts though, and the flow seems kinda spotty. Sonic fell off a cliff or something and all of a sudden he's rescuing rotor. I know he's fast but it just wasn't clear. Or maybe I just don't read comics enough to read between the panels.

I noticed there seems to be a spinoff called Sonic Universe. I don't know what that's all about, but Sonic seems like a good series to spinoff into a different style of series. It would have been cool if they took this rebooting concept and made it into a more game inspired comic, and then continued the other story separately. Or maybe that's what they're planning.
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flamepanther wrote:
BoringSupreez wrote:
AppleQueso wrote:apparently what's left of the Powerpuff Girls fanbase is full of fanfiction writers and shippers. :?
I noticed that. Most of the "normal" fans abandoned the series long ago. Videogame fanbases seem to be more loyal, for some reason.
Wait, people are shipping kindergarteners? That should get them on some kind of pedophile watch list or something. Sex offenders waiting to happen.
You should avoid looking in to Hanamaru Kindergarten. It's a show based on the premise that kindergartners are shipping themselves with their teacher.
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Sonic Universe is what they call a backup book in comics.

Its the same characters and Universe as the main Sonic the Hedgehog book, except it focuses on other characters and happenings in the world, while the main book focuses on Sonic and whats happening around him.

Sonic Universe tends to run in 4 issue story arcs. One recent story in the book actually covered the events of the game gear game Tails Adventure. :wink:
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Jrecee wrote: As for this massive discussion of sonic comics. I stopped reading them around the 60s. I caught up with a couple during the whole sonic adventure type transition thing, which if I recall right, was done because the U.S. and Japanese marketing divisions were merged in some way, and they were trying to meld the different versions of sonic together. Which is also the reason why they started calling Robotnik Eggman around Sonic Adventure 1 and 2.
So now we know who/what to blame for the ridicule of one of 16-bit gaming's most badass bad guys (see Sonic SatAM version, not the other cartoon's version)
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ZeroAX wrote:
Jrecee wrote: As for this massive discussion of sonic comics. I stopped reading them around the 60s. I caught up with a couple during the whole sonic adventure type transition thing, which if I recall right, was done because the U.S. and Japanese marketing divisions were merged in some way, and they were trying to meld the different versions of sonic together. Which is also the reason why they started calling Robotnik Eggman around Sonic Adventure 1 and 2.
So now we know who/what to blame for the ridicule of one of 16-bit gaming's most badass bad guys (see Sonic SatAM version, not the other cartoon's version)
I have to say, the saturday morning show definitely got robotnik right. Even if they technically got him wrong. Elements of that version are what convinced me a sonic movie would work (I'll finish the screenplay one day, really. . . I will)
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