What's Your View On Marijuana?

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dsheinem wrote: 2) Unlike with alcohol, there is no way for an arresting officer to know with certainty if my driving error was caused by something I smoked an hour ago (high while driving) or a week ago (sober while driving). If I was sober but had evidence of recent use in my blood, I'm fucked.
They are developing marijuana breathalyzers..
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/201 ... ine-heroin
http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/180490/ ... d-driving/
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8bit wrote:
dsheinem wrote: 2) Unlike with alcohol, there is no way for an arresting officer to know with certainty if my driving error was caused by something I smoked an hour ago (high while driving) or a week ago (sober while driving). If I was sober but had evidence of recent use in my blood, I'm fucked.
They are developing marijuana breathalyzers..
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/201 ... ine-heroin
http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/180490/ ... d-driving/
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Guys to much money is made for it to be legal.

The Cartel gets paid.
The Cops and DEA get paid.
The Judges and Lawyers get paid.
The Prison Guards get paid.
The PO gets paid.
The Rehab gets paid.
The Counsels gets paid.

Do you think that these people no longer want money.
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bryan_65 wrote:Guys to much money is made for it to be legal.

The Cartel gets paid.
The Cops and DEA get paid.
The Judges and Lawyers get paid.
The Prison Guards get paid.
The PO gets paid.
The Rehab gets paid.
The Counsels gets paid.

Do you think that these people no longer want money.
Didn't stop the states that legalized it.
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I am not a fan of using any mind altering drugs myself, even alcohol, but I don't care what people choose to do to themselves.

That said, I agree with Dave's concerns about legalization (especially #2 as with #1 I feel the same about cigarettes or smoking anything around children) since they're the primary examples of marijuana endangering others.

If those are addressed and stuff like marijuana breathalyzers become a reality I don't see the problem.
bryan_65 wrote:Guys to much money is made for it to be legal.

The Cartel gets paid.
The Cops and DEA get paid.
The Judges and Lawyers get paid.
The Prison Guards get paid.
The PO gets paid.
The Rehab gets paid.
The Counsels gets paid.

Do you think that these people no longer want money.
Minus the drug cartels which are irrelevant you're making an argument for legalization since the government on the local, state and federal level is what's losing money paying most of these people.

Including the drug cartels isn't weakening them another good reason?
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I love it.

Huge stoner here.

It doesn't give you a hang-over. It doesn't make you all "twacked out" like other drugs (unless you already have mental issues). It's just nice and chill.

I've even seen research lately that has shown that not only is marijuana not linked with cancer, but they have shown that it helps to reverse cancer cells. I wish I had a link, now. And no, I didn't read it in High Times, this was a news article from Yahoo's homepage a few months back.

Now one thing bad it does do is that it makes me lazy, and makes me suck down soda like it's water.
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Gunstar Green wrote:
bryan_65 wrote:Guys to much money is made for it to be legal.

The Cartel gets paid.
The Cops and DEA get paid.
The Judges and Lawyers get paid.
The Prison Guards get paid.
The PO gets paid.
The Rehab gets paid.
The Counsels gets paid.

Do you think that these people no longer want money.
Minus the drug cartels which are irrelevant you're making an argument for legalization since the government on the local, state and federal level is what's losing money paying most of these people.

Including the drug cartels isn't weakening them another good reason?
But the high ups in office that are getting paid don't care if the ''Government'' is in debt.
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I used daily for nearly 3 years. I quit cold turkey about 4 months ago. While I'm an advocate for it's legalization and feel I'm at least somewhat of an example that it can help people, I feel like in most instances, it only does harm. That said, I certainly see it as much less of an evil than alcohol or tobacco.

I still can't help but feel like it's very unlikely large scale legalization is anywhere close. There are too many unanswered questions on how it will effect the social climate in most places, and the whole question of how law enforcement will handle it is pretty unknown, though there have been developments in that area. I guess Colorado, Washington, and California will be the guinea-pigs in this experiment.

It will certainly be interesting to watch, even if I have no desire to touch it again, so I can't say any of it will effect me anymore.
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WARvault wrote:I think we* should legalise all recreational drugs. Treating drugs as a criminal issue rather than a health issue is a waste of resources. Transition to a licencing system, like we* have for vehicles. 1 day course for a "responsible alcohol" ticket, 3 days for tobacco and/or cannabis. If you want a Meth licence you have to do a 21 day intensive course (for example) with a first aid ticket. Same for heroin. etc... If you supply to underage/unlicenced users you get your licence suspended. If you mess up on drugs, you lose your licence. Just like vehicle licences...

Does this idea pass other peoples' smell test?

* I am from Victoria, Australia, your laws may vary...
I'm with you on soft drugs but heroin and meth??? Dont tell me your serious.
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dsheinem wrote:I still have the same two concerns about outright legalization. Perhaps they've been addressed well in states/countries that now allow recreational use? I'd love to know.

Anyway, the concerns are:

1) There is no way to prevent/police the damage of second hand smoke in the home around infants/children. As I understand it, the effects of second hand pot smoke are more immediate, dangerous, and damaging than those of second hand cigarette smoke.

2) Unlike with alcohol, there is no way for an arresting officer to know with certainty if my driving error was caused by something I smoked an hour ago (high while driving) or a week ago (sober while driving). If I was sober but had evidence of recent use in my blood, I'm fucked.

Anyway, those have been long standing objections I've had to outright legalization. I'd be happy to see more decriminalization and an easing off the drug war, but I can understand that there are still some legitimate public safety concerns.
:lol: you think pot smoke it worse than cigarette smoke. Weed dosn't cause cancer and all the other various diseases tobacco does. Trust me, a infant subject to 2nd hand marijuana smoke will be better than the infant subject to tobacco smoke.
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