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Re: Together Retro: Sonic & Knuckles

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 12:30 pm
by Stark
Xeogred wrote:Choppy? Yeah right...

No emulators allowed.

I did acknowledge that it was probably the emulator, sometimes you don't have a choice though, my Genny is on the fritz.
Xeogred wrote:And yeah, what Gunstar and Gamerforlife said above, thank goodness it's not Mario.

I understand it's not Mario and I try to see that going into it, but my brain doesn't work that way for some reason. Not for me which is fine, I can see why people would like it though.

Re: Together Retro: Sonic & Knuckles

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 4:33 pm
by MrPopo
So I've been watching the S3&K run from the 2015 Awesome Games Done Quick marathon. This game is incredibly broken if you know what you're doing.

Re: Together Retro: Sonic & Knuckles

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 5:33 pm
by Gunstar Green
MrPopo wrote:So I've been watching the S3&K run from the 2015 Awesome Games Done Quick marathon. This game is incredibly broken if you know what you're doing.


That's kind of how most 2D platformers are once the speed runners tear into them and uncover glitches, though the Sonic games are some of the worst offenders.

Watch a Sonic 2 one. That game is a complete mess.

Re: Together Retro: Sonic & Knuckles

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 6:25 pm
by MrPopo
Gunstar Green wrote:
MrPopo wrote:So I've been watching the S3&K run from the 2015 Awesome Games Done Quick marathon. This game is incredibly broken if you know what you're doing.


That's kind of how most 2D platformers are once the speed runners tear into them and uncover glitches, though the Sonic games are some of the worst offenders.

Watch a Sonic 2 one. That game is a complete mess.

Yeah, I saw the Sonic 2 one as well (they did both games back to back). I think S3&K seemed more glitchy to me, but they're both hilarious when they pop the big stuff. Compare the Castlevania games where most of it is just good damage boosts and a couple of quick kill glitches.

Re: Together Retro: Sonic & Knuckles

Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2015 1:25 pm
by samsonlonghair
Hold on...

My skepticism alarm is going off.

A lot of these so-called "uncovered glitches" only apply in emulators. Try replicating these glitches on actual genesis hardware with real cartridges.

Re: Together Retro: Sonic & Knuckles

Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2015 2:01 pm
by dogman91
While that's true, Awesome Games Done Quick uses original hardware only AFAIK.

Re: Together Retro: Sonic & Knuckles

Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2015 2:09 pm
by Xeogred
Gonna hit up Sonic 3 again today. Get that one out of the way before I replay the better ones... :roll:

Re: Together Retro: Sonic & Knuckles

Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2015 3:06 pm
by Gunstar Green
samsonlonghair wrote:Hold on...

My skepticism alarm is going off.

A lot of these so-called "uncovered glitches" only apply in emulators. Try replicating these glitches on actual genesis hardware with real cartridges.


You're thinking of tool assisted speed-runs which isn't what we're talking about.

Re: Together Retro: Sonic & Knuckles

Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2015 3:12 pm
by alienjesus
I played some more of this today. Going for all 14 emeralds as Tails this weekend.

I have 7 and just got to Mushroom Hill Zone. I'll finish it off tomorrow.

And then next weekend, it's Knuckle's turn.

Re: Together Retro: Sonic & Knuckles

Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2015 4:01 pm
by Xeogred
Sonic 3... yeah, really does quickly turn into a "can't wait until this over" kind of experience. Best I could probably give it is a 6/10. I wonder if my feelings for it would be different if 80% of the music didn't suck. Don't get wrong, Michael Jackson rocks, but the MJ/90's pop-isms here are just awful! I'm shocked the final boss theme between this and S&K originated here. I don't care for the additional music 3 has as well, namely the miniboss theme and Knuckles song here sucks. The credits theme is okay.

Funny that S&K barely has any water, but it's in 4 zones in 3.

It really is a mystery between what happened with these two. S&K's quality is night and day compared to S3's for me.