Solving sexism in games: Fat/ugly human female characters
Re: Solving sexism in games: Fat/ugly human female character
we need a special dump thread/circle of hell for people who post giant fucking pictures
Re: Solving sexism in games: Fat/ugly human female character
CRT's house?dsheinem wrote:we need a special dump thread/circle of hell for people who post giant fucking pictures
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Re: Solving sexism in games: Fat/ugly human female character
In other words, a false equivalence.pierrot wrote:It was an attempt at equivalence in absurdity of using gigantic breasts to signify femininity.
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Re: Solving sexism in games: Fat/ugly human female character
^ That appears to be your assertion, but so far, you've done nothing to support it.
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Re: Solving sexism in games: Fat/ugly human female character
The ball is in your court not mine. Please elaborate on "huge, pendulous testicles" you can perfectly see in isometric view are equivalent to big breasts.pierrot wrote:^ That appears to be your assertion, but so far, you've done nothing to support it.
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Re: Solving sexism in games: Fat/ugly human female character
I don't see the problem as long as the picture isn't very wide. You can put really tall pictures in a spoiler tag. A much bigger problem is people who quote long posts (or a reply chain) when what ever they say only concerns a very small section of all of the text, or worse yet, is totally irrelevant.dsheinem wrote:we need a special dump thread/circle of hell for people who post giant fucking pictures
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Re: Solving sexism in games: Fat/ugly human female character
I agree that F-cup breasts aren't comparable to gigantic genitals.General_Norris wrote:The ball is in your court not mine. Please elaborate on "huge, pendulous testicles" you can perfectly see in isometric view are equivalent to big breasts.pierrot wrote:^ That appears to be your assertion, but so far, you've done nothing to support it.
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Re: Solving sexism in games: Fat/ugly human female character
Yeah. I think a better comparison would be gigantic men with chests and biceps the size of trucks, which games and media are absolutely packed with.Valkyrie-Favor wrote:I agree that F-cup breasts aren't comparable to gigantic genitals.
Honestly though I see no problem with breasts being used as a sign of femininity. Obviously there is a line where it crosses over to ridiculousness and becomes more than just a display of gender, but in general there's no harm in the idea of it.
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Re: Solving sexism in games: Fat/ugly human female character
Honestly stereotypical attributes of maleness are just as exaggerated in games and other visual media as exaggerated attributes of women.
The "giant testicles" thing is a false equivalence, since it wouldn't be a woman's ideal version of a man. If you want equivalence you would instead be turning every male character into female fan-service and I think there are a lot of games that do that already. Especially Japanese ones when viewed through modern Japanese culture.
To that point I wonder how Japan views issues like this since there's fan-service galore for both genders in their popular media. I know that these days a lot of young Japanese men are very concerned about maintaining their looks and adhering to a standard of beauty. Things that western feminists often complain about. It's an interesting phenomenon I think.
Back to the "giant testicles" thing, despite what I already said, it isn't a completely absurd comparison. It brought to my mind the traditional cape and underwear super heroes who tend to exist in universes full of very large breasts and apparently very tiny penises. There's no other explanation for those tights. I always thought that was funny.
Also, though the LoL guys were dancing around the issue they weren't entirely wrong. In stuff like video games, comics and cartoons you often have to deal in exaggerations to give your characters instantly recognizable silhouettes. This doesn't forgive examples that are exaggerated to the point of fan-service however. But women have boobs and art exaggerates proportions so it's not always a case of purposely making a character sexualized.
More to the point though, does this mean all sexualized depictions of women are bad? I feel like there are positive examples. I certainly don't want to live in a repressed world that's afraid to be a little unrealistically sexy once in a while.
The "giant testicles" thing is a false equivalence, since it wouldn't be a woman's ideal version of a man. If you want equivalence you would instead be turning every male character into female fan-service and I think there are a lot of games that do that already. Especially Japanese ones when viewed through modern Japanese culture.
To that point I wonder how Japan views issues like this since there's fan-service galore for both genders in their popular media. I know that these days a lot of young Japanese men are very concerned about maintaining their looks and adhering to a standard of beauty. Things that western feminists often complain about. It's an interesting phenomenon I think.
Back to the "giant testicles" thing, despite what I already said, it isn't a completely absurd comparison. It brought to my mind the traditional cape and underwear super heroes who tend to exist in universes full of very large breasts and apparently very tiny penises. There's no other explanation for those tights. I always thought that was funny.
Also, though the LoL guys were dancing around the issue they weren't entirely wrong. In stuff like video games, comics and cartoons you often have to deal in exaggerations to give your characters instantly recognizable silhouettes. This doesn't forgive examples that are exaggerated to the point of fan-service however. But women have boobs and art exaggerates proportions so it's not always a case of purposely making a character sexualized.
More to the point though, does this mean all sexualized depictions of women are bad? I feel like there are positive examples. I certainly don't want to live in a repressed world that's afraid to be a little unrealistically sexy once in a while.
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Re: Solving sexism in games: Fat/ugly human female character
Gigantic pecks aren't as sexually taboo as breasts are. Both balls and tits are covered up, while bare-chested men has long been the norm.brunoafh wrote:Yeah. I think a better comparison would be gigantic men with chests and biceps the size of trucks, which games and media are absolutely packed with.Valkyrie-Favor wrote:I agree that F-cup breasts aren't comparable to gigantic genitals.
Honestly though I see no problem with breasts being used as a sign of femininity. Obviously there is a line where it crosses over to ridiculousness and becomes more than just a display of gender, but in general there's no harm in the idea of it.