alienjesus wrote:I beat the bat boss, who was ridiculously hard, and frankly unfair imo (you cant even hurt him without taking damage as far as I can tell), and got into the tower of the doomed. I re-found all the silver armour, plus all the best equipment, got to the final boss door and....I've missed something. According to a guide I just looked it up on, I need a monocle and an amulet, which means I have to climb halfway back down the damn tower, past both bloody mirror mazes again. I cant be assed tonight, I guess I'll finish this tomorrow.
Atm, I feel like I'm the only one who isn't really into this game.
I died 2 or 3 times to the bat boss while barely even inflicting much damage, until I learned the trick to it. When I beat him, he only hit me once. I would just run him to each upper corners and alternate. Run there right away, then stand there, and his bats start going faster and converging, then just run out of the way at the last second, and he usually transforms in the corner from the convergence. Sometimes he wont quite transform, so I run directly south, then loop around and run up to the opposite northern corner again. Then I just run up and hit him when he converges, and immediately run away and go sit in the other corner. Rinse and repeat several times and he went down.
That's the tactic I did use, although I'm not sure how you managed to not get hit. The bats filled like 3/4 of the screen, so when they closed in on me, I normally took at least 1 hit. What version are you playing? Maybe it's just the slower movement speed on master system making it harder than it should be?
The main problem I was having though was that to actually inflict damage on the boss, I needed to run right through the middle of him, which basically assured that I had to take 2 or 3 hits everytime I attacked. Maybe I was missing something, but I couldn't damage him otherwise. I was literally barely inflicting more damage on him than I was taking just from attacking him, so I had to be almost perfect for the bats.
alienjesus wrote:
That's the tactic I did use, although I'm not sure how you managed to not get hit. The bats filled like 3/4 of the screen, so when they closed in on me, I normally took at least 1 hit. What version are you playing? Maybe it's just the slower movement speed on master system making it harder than it should be?
The main problem I was having though was that to actually inflict damage on the boss, I needed to run right through the middle of him, which basically assured that I had to take 2 or 3 hits everytime I attacked. Maybe I was missing something, but I couldn't damage him otherwise. I was literally barely inflicting more damage on him than I was taking just from attacking him, so I had to be almost perfect for the bats.
Ya I am playing on psp, so maybe there is a difference.
I also beat it last night. Got the last boss on the 6th or 7th try.
I took down the Bat Boss last night - finally. I used the walk until the last moment so that they would converge right beside you. Instead of doing this at the top of the room I did it at the bottom. I used the circular pattern on the floor to mark where to stand (just to either side of it) and that was usually a safe place. Once he would form I would run diagonally through him starting at his and and going through his head. This strategy took me about 4-5 hits @ lvl 17.
I also started the tower last night and got crushed by the mantis boss, so I went grinding. While grinding I found the silver shield and realized that those statues that attack after you retrieve the shield are worth a decent amount of XP. I grinded there until I was lvl 26 and then went back to beat the mantis. I saved there.
Are you guys who are playing the "Book I and II" version of the game considering it beaten when you finish I, or do you consider the game beaten when both books (since they are presented as one game) are done?
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SpaceBooger wrote:I took down the Bat Boss last night - finally. I used the walk until the last moment so that they would converge right beside you. Instead of doing this at the top of the room I did it at the bottom. I used the circular pattern on the floor to mark where to stand (just to either side of it) and that was usually a safe place. Once he would form I would run diagonally through him starting at his and and going through his head. This strategy took me about 4-5 hits @ lvl 17.
I also started the tower last night and got crushed by the mantis boss, so I went grinding. While grinding I found the silver shield and realized that those statues that attack after you retrieve the shield are worth a decent amount of XP. I grinded there until I was lvl 26 and then went back to beat the mantis. I saved there.
Are you guys who are playing the "Book I and II" version of the game considering it beaten when you finish I, or do you consider the game beaten when both books (since they are presented as one game) are done?
To me it is so early in the month, and both chapters are on the same disc, that I should go ahead and beat both games. If I hated Ys 1 I may have stopped there, but it was a fun little game.
SpaceBooger wrote:
Are you guys who are playing the "Book I and II" version of the game considering it beaten when you finish I, or do you consider the game beaten when both books (since they are presented as one game) are done?
They were originally distinct games, released separately. There are credits at the end f Ys 1, so I consider it beaten and the disc as a collection (e.g. like Final Fantasy Chronicles)
I say play through Ys II. It's a decent game, but I find it to be much harder than the first installment. Probably because of all the convoluted maze areas, my navigation skills aren't the best.
Played for 2-3 hrs. last night, and got to the point in Darm Tower where you lose your Silver equip.
The Bat Boss was no trouble for me. I had all the Silver equip., and used the Armor Ring. I stood at the far side of the room in the middle, so when all the bats converged, they were in a narrow column. When they did, I simply ran straight at them, deflecting them each time. Since my defense was so high, and I wasn't being hit from the back or sides, I recieved no damage. He only took 3 hits to kill.
speaking of rings: the best rings in my opinion are the healing ring and the time ring. Once I got the healing ring (which lets you regenerate health in dungeons) I felt like dungeons got waaay easier (the mines for instance). And then I found that the time ring (slows enemies down) was great for boss battles. Though that didn't occur to me until the last boss. But those of you still on the bat boss, I bet the time ring would help.
noiseredux wrote:speaking of rings: the best rings in my opinion are the healing ring and the time ring. Once I got the healing ring (which lets you regenerate health in dungeons) I felt like dungeons got waaay easier (the mines for instance). And then I found that the time ring (slows enemies down) was great for boss battles. Though that didn't occur to me until the last boss. But those of you still on the bat boss, I bet the time ring would help.
never thought to use the time ring at all - seemed like the most pointless ring...
yeah the only ring I used at all was the healing ring, until the last boss like I said. He gave me trouble on my first two tries. On my last try I decided to go through my equipment and try something different. The time ring coupled with the right other equipment made the battle pretty damn easy.
