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Other M is a good game.
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Segata wrote:Other M is a good game.
I agree. What's more, while I can see why folks might not like Samus' characterization in the game, it also showed her at a younger point of her life. Imagining some immaturity at that point perhaps isn't a stretch.

As for the infamous Ridley bit, a buddy of mine says that's a spot-on rendition of PTSD.

(Gameplay-wise, I can see why some might not like the forced linearity in spots; Fusion did the same thing, but the linearity there made a lot more sense within the overall narrative.)
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Sarge wrote:The irony, though, is that most of the things people complained about from Other M weren't Team Ninja's fault, they were Nintendo's.
Absolutely agreed. Team Ninja did their part of the job admirably. The actual problems were Yoshio Sakamoto's fault.
Ehh... the gameplay wasn't clicking with me either but I get why people liked it. If it was just the story that wasn't thrilling me I still could have made it through the game but I wasn't having much fun with any part of it really. I think Team Ninja was still a very strange choice for Metroid.
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Sarge wrote:
Segata wrote:Other M is a good game.
I agree. What's more, while I can see why folks might not like Samus' characterization in the game, it also showed her at a younger point of her life. Imagining some immaturity at that point perhaps isn't a stretch.

As for the infamous Ridley bit, a buddy of mine says that's a spot-on rendition of PTSD.

(Gameplay-wise, I can see why some might not like the forced linearity in spots; Fusion did the same thing, but the linearity there made a lot more sense within the overall narrative.)
Honestly, I think the biggest bungle with regards to authorization was how they did the Varia. Aside from the fact that the framing justification doesn't warrant it, it isn't even used to tantalize you with an area and you get it later, like how Super did. You run through a hot room, then it gets turned on. Fusion and Prime give you the suit before you need it, though in Fusion's case they toss enemies at you before hand that get countered by it. And with Fusion it was used as part of the narrative, while Prime really just used it as an excuse to show you get shoulders.
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Sarge wrote:I agree. What's more, while I can see why folks might not like Samus' characterization in the game, it also showed her at a younger point of her life. Imagining some immaturity at that point perhaps isn't a stretch.
I own this game but haven't had a chance to play it yet. But my understanding was that this game is set between Super and Fusion. Fusion is the last game in the series, chronologically. That means this is her second to last adventure. Do they do lots of flashbacks or something?
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marurun wrote:Do they do lots of flashbacks or something?
Yes. You get to learn all about what an unlikable person Samus used to be.
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Sarge wrote:
Segata wrote:Other M is a good game.
I agree. What's more, while I can see why folks might not like Samus' characterization in the game, it also showed her at a younger point of her life. Imagining some immaturity at that point perhaps isn't a stretch.

As for the infamous Ridley bit, a buddy of mine says that's a spot-on rendition of PTSD.

(Gameplay-wise, I can see why some might not like the forced linearity in spots; Fusion did the same thing, but the linearity there made a lot more sense within the overall narrative.)
Have PTSD and can confirm. My issue with Other M is the voice acting and art design otherwise an enjoyable game. I think for those of us who have played a lot of JRPGs and esp 90s JRPGs on PS1, you get used to bad VA. :lol:
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marurun wrote:Do they do lots of flashbacks or something?
Yes. You get to learn all about what an unlikable person Samus used to be.
When you think about it, she does a lot of horrible things in the main games as well. She just doesn't do it with teenage attitude. But objectively, she's a monster.
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Gunstar Green wrote:
marurun wrote:Do they do lots of flashbacks or something?
Yes. You get to learn all about what an unlikable person Samus used to be.
No, she wasn't a terrible person just angry. Her parents were slaughtered when she was just a child. She is the only female in that group. She has a chip on her shoulder. She's just immature and full of emotion. What is funny is people think a lot of the stuff in Other M is new to other M in the story. In reality, this stuff has been in Metroid for a long time. Other M basically took a bunch of existing lore and put it in one game with a little extra padding.
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I said she's unlikable I didn't say anything about being terrible.
Segata wrote:What is funny is people think a lot of the stuff in Other M is new to other M in the story. In reality, this stuff has been in Metroid for a long time. Other M basically took a bunch of existing lore and put it in one game with a little extra padding.
It's essentially a continuation of the Zero Mission manga which I wasn't in love with either.

But I'm not here to argue about it. It's never not going to be a polarizing game.
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